Darth Nihilus
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Re: Does wood matter?
Do it, mate! You'll see once you plug it in that there's no difference in tone whatsoever
Do it, mate! You'll see once you plug it in that there's no difference in tone whatsoever
Does wood matter?
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Lucy Diamond
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Re: Does wood matter?
Even back as a kid when both my Ibanez guitars were stock and had the same pickups they sounded different.
Judit, a USA Custom with mahogany body and maple cap, rosewood fretboard and (stock) DiMarzio PAF Pros always sounded darker than Elle, a blue floral jem with a basswood body, maple fretboard and (stock) DiMarzio PAF Pros.
In fact...Elle and her Basswood body have always sounded brighter than any other guitar I own no matter what pickups I use. She just has a very treble sound.
In my opinion, Strats with maple fretboards tend to sound more "Stratty" in my ears.
Even back as a kid when both my Ibanez guitars were stock and had the same pickups they sounded different.
Judit, a USA Custom with mahogany body and maple cap, rosewood fretboard and (stock) DiMarzio PAF Pros always sounded darker than Elle, a blue floral jem with a basswood body, maple fretboard and (stock) DiMarzio PAF Pros.
In fact...Elle and her Basswood body have always sounded brighter than any other guitar I own no matter what pickups I use. She just has a very treble sound.
In my opinion, Strats with maple fretboards tend to sound more "Stratty" in my ears.
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Them "scientific tests" of yours.....sorry but experience says otherwise, and I am not even remotely fanatic about what wood is for what.
Vibrations are vibrations, it all matters.....but perhaps not as much as some would like to think.
Quality wood is not just about sound either.
I don't need much to figure out that the sound would be kinda....dead and pingy
Them "scientific tests" of yours.....sorry but experience says otherwise, and I am not even remotely fanatic about what wood is for what.
Vibrations are vibrations, it all matters.....but perhaps not as much as some would like to think.
Quality wood is not just about sound either.
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Re: Does wood matter?
Pups sense string frequencies vibrations and produce alternate currents capturing the strings' basic frequency and its harmonics. Harmonics, basic frequency and their sustain is dependent on the woods and the other parts. A note that is killed by the wood counter-vibrations won't be improved no matter what the upgrades in pups/hardware. People talk about physics, like its some forbidden exotic knowledge. There are many among us who did great in physics/signal processing/etc both in school and in Univ, its not like its alien technology or anything.
regan
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Re: Does wood matter?
Yes, but some of us can't grasp the enormity of the scope of physics....which deals with physical vibrations as well as electrical signals. Physics is very clear on mechanical energy......anything in intimate contact to something with mechanical energy will influence the nature of that energy.
So it is 100% clear that anything attached to the string, anything that allows that string to hold pitch in other words, influences the vibration of the string. It is a semi-closed system, with a feedback loop of energy back into the string itself via the contact points.......filtered by the natural resonances of any and all bits of the guitar (yes, including the pickguard).
You just need to cast your intelligence net a bit wider to grasp the full range of the (correct) notion you espoused. Otherwise you tend to look the fool as you reach a 100% wrong conclusion.
Yes, but some of us can't grasp the enormity of the scope of physics....which deals with physical vibrations as well as electrical signals. Physics is very clear on mechanical energy......anything in intimate contact to something with mechanical energy will influence the nature of that energy.
So it is 100% clear that anything attached to the string, anything that allows that string to hold pitch in other words, influences the vibration of the string. It is a semi-closed system, with a feedback loop of energy back into the string itself via the contact points.......filtered by the natural resonances of any and all bits of the guitar (yes, including the pickguard).
You just need to cast your intelligence net a bit wider to grasp the full range of the (correct) notion you espoused. Otherwise you tend to look the fool as you reach a 100% wrong conclusion.
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Darth Nihilus
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Re: Does wood matter?
True but only to a point. For the wood to affect the string damping, it would have to be vibrating intensely which it isn't.
The bridge, often times being made out of steel, keeps most of the vibration bouncing from the bridge to the nut and back. Very little vibration is introduced to a solid body and the little it does, barely makes it back to the string. That's why it's so easy to get great tones out POS guitars once the pickups and hardware are upgraded to your favorite components.
True but only to a point. For the wood to affect the string damping, it would have to be vibrating intensely which it isn't.
The bridge, often times being made out of steel, keeps most of the vibration bouncing from the bridge to the nut and back. Very little vibration is introduced to a solid body and the little it does, barely makes it back to the string. That's why it's so easy to get great tones out POS guitars once the pickups and hardware are upgraded to your favorite components.
regan
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Darth Nihilus
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Re: Does wood matter?
Yup, totally.
Yup, totally.
regan
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Darth Nihilus
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We're talking about compression waves, not transverse waves.
We're talking about compression waves, not transverse waves.
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Darth Nihilus
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Re: Does wood matter?
My head is starting to hurt so I'm going to leave this here and hopefully, you'll all watch it to the end and not just say that you did.
http://youtu.be/nJfeFe4CKEk
My head is starting to hurt so I'm going to leave this here and hopefully, you'll all watch it to the end and not just say that you did.
http://youtu.be/nJfeFe4CKEk
leevc5
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Re: Does wood matter?
I say wood matters in the sound of the guitar. One reason = Gibson Les Paul = high quality mahogany body with high quality maple top. I don't think anyone can argue convincingly that there is another guitar that sounds like a Gibson Les Paul. Why? because wood matters.
I say wood matters in the sound of the guitar. One reason = Gibson Les Paul = high quality mahogany body with high quality maple top. I don't think anyone can argue convincingly that there is another guitar that sounds like a Gibson Les Paul. Why? because wood matters.
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regan
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Re: Does wood matter?
The guy's a hack who's just after youtube views, put it this way why are his guitars made from mahogany maple and alder?
The guy's a hack who's just after youtube views, put it this way why are his guitars made from mahogany maple and alder?
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Darth Nihilus
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Re: Does wood matter?
One reason: Tradition! Second reason: Woods are beautiful.
He'll make guitars out of whatever you like I'm sure.
He's not a hack, you're just doing exactly what he says in the video, you're ignoring the evidence.
One reason: Tradition! Second reason: Woods are beautiful.
He'll make guitars out of whatever you like I'm sure.
He's not a hack, you're just doing exactly what he says in the video, you're ignoring the evidence.
regan
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Re: Does wood matter?
He's presented no evidence his whole model assumes there is only energy travelling between the nut and bridge, this is the model of a perpetual motion machine,an impossibility in mechanical physics.
If nut and bridge affects tone than why not wood density? you can feel a guitar body vibrate that there is proof that mehanical energy is being transferred to the body, this in turn affects the nature of string vibration (sustain, volume attenuation)which dissects the EMF of magnetic pickups and is amplified
He's presented no evidence his whole model assumes there is only energy travelling between the nut and bridge, this is the model of a perpetual motion machine,an impossibility in mechanical physics.
If nut and bridge affects tone than why not wood density? you can feel a guitar body vibrate that there is proof that mehanical energy is being transferred to the body, this in turn affects the nature of string vibration (sustain, volume attenuation)which dissects the EMF of magnetic pickups and is amplified
