Don't be a bich
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80's_Metal
Underglazed Hair Metalologist
Re: Don't be a bich
Bc Rich's are great axes.
Bichs are my favorite.
You're going to love the neck and frets.
I love the pups in the nj series.
If you have to have DiMarzio, the x2n is a bad mofo!
Congrats man! Bichs are great!
Bc Rich's are great axes.
Bichs are my favorite.
You're going to love the neck and frets.
I love the pups in the nj series.
If you have to have DiMarzio, the x2n is a bad mofo!
Congrats man! Bichs are great!
nexion218
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Re: Don't be a bich
Ah, the creative ways we can explain ourselves out of binding vows and work around obstacles erected between us and our newest "final guitar" for the year/decade/century/lifetime. :biglaugh:
Ah, the creative ways we can explain ourselves out of binding vows and work around obstacles erected between us and our newest "final guitar" for the year/decade/century/lifetime. :biglaugh:
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
Re: Don't be a bich
How bad is the neck dive? I love Warlocks, and lusted after the red & yellow plexiglas Warlock and Mockingbird from a local shop, but every BCR I've ever played has been absurdly heavy, and so imbalanced it seemed like it was intentional.
How bad is the neck dive? I love Warlocks, and lusted after the red & yellow plexiglas Warlock and Mockingbird from a local shop, but every BCR I've ever played has been absurdly heavy, and so imbalanced it seemed like it was intentional.
dystrust
Well-known member
Re: Don't be a bich
I haven't played this particular version, but neck dive various pretty greatly from model to model. For example Mockingbirds can go either way depending on a bunch of factors. OTOH none of the Eagles or Warlocks I've played had neck dive. It's been ages since I've played a Bich, and I don't remember the last one diving though I don't remember for sure.
I haven't played this particular version, but neck dive various pretty greatly from model to model. For example Mockingbirds can go either way depending on a bunch of factors. OTOH none of the Eagles or Warlocks I've played had neck dive. It's been ages since I've played a Bich, and I don't remember the last one diving though I don't remember for sure.
donaldr
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Used to have an '79 USA BC Rich Mockingbird bass with 2x Dimarzio P and full electronic preamp (nice boost and 6-position vari-tone). Incredible neck-thru "boutique" bass and thunder sounding. Traded it because it was not my cup-of-tea anymore and the neck dive. Congrat but take a look at the original electronic with thousand knobs and switches.
Used to have an '79 USA BC Rich Mockingbird bass with 2x Dimarzio P and full electronic preamp (nice boost and 6-position vari-tone). Incredible neck-thru "boutique" bass and thunder sounding. Traded it because it was not my cup-of-tea anymore and the neck dive. Congrat but take a look at the original electronic with thousand knobs and switches.
DavidRavenMoon
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I always liked the BC Rich wiring with the series/parallel, phase and Varitone.
Varitones are great. You get five different midrange notches. I put one in a 1980 LP Standard I had.
In the guitars I build I use a midrange control like on the Gibson L6-S.
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I always liked the BC Rich wiring with the series/parallel, phase and Varitone.
Varitones are great. You get five different midrange notches. I put one in a 1980 LP Standard I had.
In the guitars I build I use a midrange control like on the Gibson L6-S.
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Re: Don't be a bich
Why the kahler? I doubt it's controversial to say that kahlers are notorious tone-suckers and will impact the sustain negatively. The Floyd Rose FRX is much less invasive and sounds better to boot, too.
other than that: nice axe. Bich's are my favorite shapes from BC Rich. I like to compare them to .Strandberg* because Bich's are in my mind the first ' ergonomic' design. Not necessarily or exactly true, but I like to think that on an emotional level. The cutouts feel very natural when playing with a strap: put your foot on a monitor, put the guitar's cutout on your leg and shred away!
Why the kahler? I doubt it's controversial to say that kahlers are notorious tone-suckers and will impact the sustain negatively. The Floyd Rose FRX is much less invasive and sounds better to boot, too.
other than that: nice axe. Bich's are my favorite shapes from BC Rich. I like to compare them to .Strandberg* because Bich's are in my mind the first ' ergonomic' design. Not necessarily or exactly true, but I like to think that on an emotional level. The cutouts feel very natural when playing with a strap: put your foot on a monitor, put the guitar's cutout on your leg and shred away!
Chris Pile
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Re: Don't be a bich
REALLY? Got any proof to back up your asinine statement?
REALLY? Got any proof to back up your asinine statement?
Re: Don't be a bich
I don't have a graph from an oscilloscope, if that's what you desire. I have experienced first hand how severely a kahler will impact your tone, though. Did a few retrofit jobs over the years and every time, the guitar sounded worse than before. Also, I've read plenty user reviews that corroborate my opinion. But it's exactly that: an opinion. However, I do believe there's a reason we see Floyd Roses more often than Kahlers which is not a given. Kahler units were available for everybody in the 80ies: floyd roses only on Kramers (until 1985, 86, if memory serves). Even now, Kahlers are readily available and most still prefer a Floyd.
I don't have a graph from an oscilloscope, if that's what you desire. I have experienced first hand how severely a kahler will impact your tone, though. Did a few retrofit jobs over the years and every time, the guitar sounded worse than before. Also, I've read plenty user reviews that corroborate my opinion. But it's exactly that: an opinion. However, I do believe there's a reason we see Floyd Roses more often than Kahlers which is not a given. Kahler units were available for everybody in the 80ies: floyd roses only on Kramers (until 1985, 86, if memory serves). Even now, Kahlers are readily available and most still prefer a Floyd.
Chris Pile
Well-known member
Re: Don't be a bich
Floyds are popular for one reason, and one reason only. Van Halen.
Floyds are popular for one reason, and one reason only. Van Halen.
Re: Don't be a bich
The best trem I've ever used was a TransTrem, but it is only made for headless instruments. It was a marvel of engineering though...keeping the strings perfectly in tune as you bend up or down. It started a whole new way to play for me.
The best trem I've ever used was a TransTrem, but it is only made for headless instruments. It was a marvel of engineering though...keeping the strings perfectly in tune as you bend up or down. It started a whole new way to play for me.
dystrust
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Re: Don't be a bich
I don't know if there was a price difference back in the 80s, but these days a Kahler costs a lot more than a Floyd.
If someone is installing a Kahler and expecting it to sound like a Floyd, they're going to be disappointed because Kahlers don't sound like Floyds. A Kahler with steel cam & rollers comes closest, but they're still not the same. The only Kahler I currently own is on my Charvel Model 4, and it has a brass cam & rollers. It doesn't sound like a Floyd and I like that; it sounds much closer to my tune-o-matic / stoptail guitars. I'm seriously GAS'ing for an Explorer with a Kahler, and I've thought about building one of those Precision Kits.
I don't know if there was a price difference back in the 80s, but these days a Kahler costs a lot more than a Floyd.
If someone is installing a Kahler and expecting it to sound like a Floyd, they're going to be disappointed because Kahlers don't sound like Floyds. A Kahler with steel cam & rollers comes closest, but they're still not the same. The only Kahler I currently own is on my Charvel Model 4, and it has a brass cam & rollers. It doesn't sound like a Floyd and I like that; it sounds much closer to my tune-o-matic / stoptail guitars. I'm seriously GAS'ing for an Explorer with a Kahler, and I've thought about building one of those Precision Kits.
Chris Pile
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Re: Don't be a bich
Most of the difference in sound between Kahlers and Floyds is not the metal used in the production of the whammy. It's because they are fundamentally different in design and installation.
A Floyd is suspended OVER the guitar, and a Kahler is attached TO the guitar. Also, on a Floyd the strings are secured at both ends, and the string length never changes even if the tension is changed. On a Kahler, the string is only secured at the nut, and the string length actually changes when the tension is changed.
When setup correctly, both systems work well. There is no "tone suck" or lack of sustain on either, unless the system hasn't been optimized. Of course - all things being equal, and the guitar isn't a complete piece of ****.
Most of the difference in sound between Kahlers and Floyds is not the metal used in the production of the whammy. It's because they are fundamentally different in design and installation.
A Floyd is suspended OVER the guitar, and a Kahler is attached TO the guitar. Also, on a Floyd the strings are secured at both ends, and the string length never changes even if the tension is changed. On a Kahler, the string is only secured at the nut, and the string length actually changes when the tension is changed.
When setup correctly, both systems work well. There is no "tone suck" or lack of sustain on either, unless the system hasn't been optimized. Of course - all things being equal, and the guitar isn't a complete piece of ****.
