Don't like neck-thru
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Re: Don't like neck-thru
I love the sleek aesthetics of a neck through and lack of a heel. Its personal preference.. I dont think I have any in the stable right now. The only issues Ive had have been the guitars themselves and again, my preference. Example: I have always LOVED the sleek looks of a Jackson Soloist and Charvel model 6. BUT... Having owned a Charvel 5, the neck is a small bit wider than what I prefer.. Nothing to do with the neck joint. One day Im going to own a Black Cherry model 6 (droooool) or a soloist (loved the ones they had out few years back with the Green or blue flame tops, chrome rings etc..) But this will be once I have my chops up up so I can adapt easier. And have some expendable cash, of course...
Getting back on point.. IMO, its a preference thing.. Gibson vs Fender vs.., bolt on vs set neck vs neck thru. And then of course how that particular company does theirs. Ive seen it done differently in a few diff ways.
I love the sleek aesthetics of a neck through and lack of a heel. Its personal preference.. I dont think I have any in the stable right now. The only issues Ive had have been the guitars themselves and again, my preference. Example: I have always LOVED the sleek looks of a Jackson Soloist and Charvel model 6. BUT... Having owned a Charvel 5, the neck is a small bit wider than what I prefer.. Nothing to do with the neck joint. One day Im going to own a Black Cherry model 6 (droooool) or a soloist (loved the ones they had out few years back with the Green or blue flame tops, chrome rings etc..) But this will be once I have my chops up up so I can adapt easier. And have some expendable cash, of course...
Getting back on point.. IMO, its a preference thing.. Gibson vs Fender vs.., bolt on vs set neck vs neck thru. And then of course how that particular company does theirs. Ive seen it done differently in a few diff ways.
Kamanda~SD
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Re: Don't like neck-thru
But he sure loves charging neck-through prices!
I have no problems with neck thru's, yet only my bass has this, bolt on's feel more comfortable to me, but probably due to familiarity than anything (12 bolt ons and 1 neck thru)
But he sure loves charging neck-through prices!
I have no problems with neck thru's, yet only my bass has this, bolt on's feel more comfortable to me, but probably due to familiarity than anything (12 bolt ons and 1 neck thru)
J E C
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Re: Don't like neck-thru
greekdude, it looks like you may not have understood me. You said:
The angle can be any angle from 0 degrees to 14 degrees or so.
The (wing/wings) is the body wood.
What the last part means is: Look down at a guitar while holding it in the traditional playing position. Picture the neck staying in the exact position it is in. While doing that, now picture moving the face of, or the entire body of the guitar, out away from you, or in towards you.
The three aspects I neglected to point out in my original post, are the thickness of, and the taper of, the fingboard, and string height.
greekdude, it looks like you may not have understood me. You said:
The angle can be any angle from 0 degrees to 14 degrees or so.
The (wing/wings) is the body wood.
Is there position forwards or back in relation to the axis running through the instrument, from end to end.
What the last part means is: Look down at a guitar while holding it in the traditional playing position. Picture the neck staying in the exact position it is in. While doing that, now picture moving the face of, or the entire body of the guitar, out away from you, or in towards you.
The three aspects I neglected to point out in my original post, are the thickness of, and the taper of, the fingboard, and string height.
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
Re: Don't like neck-thru
Some other ideas i like.
Long tenon glued in with a cap.
Or this without a cap.
And this syu custom. Notice how the pickguard follows around where the neck is glued in. I like that idea.
Some other ideas i like.
Long tenon glued in with a cap.
Or this without a cap.
And this syu custom. Notice how the pickguard follows around where the neck is glued in. I like that idea.
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
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Yeah i know this but really it's glued in from the top not the sides. So one could argue its set in. :firing: Plus i don't think it goes the entire way ''through''.
Yeah i know this but really it's glued in from the top not the sides. So one could argue its set in. :firing: Plus i don't think it goes the entire way ''through''.
Re: Don't like neck-thru
Usually an angle of 0 degrees is not called an angle at all. Here is my guitar, I hope you see my point, wings and neck extension stand on the same exact plane:
I have been a little "creative" with this guitar, don't get shocked by its aesthetics
Usually an angle of 0 degrees is not called an angle at all. Here is my guitar, I hope you see my point, wings and neck extension stand on the same exact plane:
I have been a little "creative" with this guitar, don't get shocked by its aesthetics
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J E C
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Well, you can clearly see the seam between the fingboard and the main neck shaft, and it is clearly NOT on the same plain as the body face. It sits out in front of the body face plain.
Any manufacturer that lists the geometry between any two parts in degrees of angle, will list the angle as 0 degrees if there is "no" angle. It doesn't matter if it is dealing with guitar (neck angle), cars (drive line angle, caster and camber angles), or planes, (prop pitch angle, wing sweep angle).
0 degrees is still an angle, saying that it is not an angle is like saying the number 0 is not a number.
Remember, 0 degrees to the X axis is 0 degrees to the Y axis but 90 degrees to the Z axis!
Well, you can clearly see the seam between the fingboard and the main neck shaft, and it is clearly NOT on the same plain as the body face. It sits out in front of the body face plain.
Any manufacturer that lists the geometry between any two parts in degrees of angle, will list the angle as 0 degrees if there is "no" angle. It doesn't matter if it is dealing with guitar (neck angle), cars (drive line angle, caster and camber angles), or planes, (prop pitch angle, wing sweep angle).
0 degrees is still an angle, saying that it is not an angle is like saying the number 0 is not a number.
Remember, 0 degrees to the X axis is 0 degrees to the Y axis but 90 degrees to the Z axis!
uOpt
Something Cool
Re: Don't like neck-thru
Well, let's not forget that a Soloist is not a complete neck-through. A Soloist has the headplate sleeved on. So it is a glued seam breaking up the all-length fibers.
That's probably why I like them. I never liked real neck-through guitars sound-wise.
Sure, you will have a very easy time getting a great sustaining guitar in the NT segment. But sustain isn't everything. And you just have to look for the bolt-in or glued-in neck guitar that has the sound and the sustain you like.
I am more open to neck-through in the bass segment. But there the base conditions are different since most of those things have exotic woods and are heavily laminated, so that breaks up the sound pretty good to make it less hifi.
Well, let's not forget that a Soloist is not a complete neck-through. A Soloist has the headplate sleeved on. So it is a glued seam breaking up the all-length fibers.
That's probably why I like them. I never liked real neck-through guitars sound-wise.
Sure, you will have a very easy time getting a great sustaining guitar in the NT segment. But sustain isn't everything. And you just have to look for the bolt-in or glued-in neck guitar that has the sound and the sustain you like.
I am more open to neck-through in the bass segment. But there the base conditions are different since most of those things have exotic woods and are heavily laminated, so that breaks up the sound pretty good to make it less hifi.
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The problem I am having with my Carvin, is that it sounds so trebly. It can do artificial (squeelies) on 1st string, 15th fret like no other guitar, but it lacks volume when doing chords. Maybe it is the maple neck, maple wings combo?
The problem I am having with my Carvin, is that it sounds so trebly. It can do artificial (squeelies) on 1st string, 15th fret like no other guitar, but it lacks volume when doing chords. Maybe it is the maple neck, maple wings combo?
kramersteen
PowerMetalRaph
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I never loved my dc. I tried so hard but it just never talked to me. It did look nice.
Mine had an exposed shaft.
I like this one. Oh wait that's mine hehe
I never loved my dc. I tried so hard but it just never talked to me. It did look nice.
Mine had an exposed shaft.
I like this one. Oh wait that's mine hehe
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uOpt
Something Cool
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I think that guitars actually have to have the fibers interrupted between tuners and bridge, somewhere, so make interesting sound.
Pure maple sounds like a good explanation for lack of bass. Try a JB.
I think that guitars actually have to have the fibers interrupted between tuners and bridge, somewhere, so make interesting sound.
Pure maple sounds like a good explanation for lack of bass. Try a JB.
eclecticsynergy
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Re: Don't like neck-thru
I agree, the neck-thrus that I've played always had a certain hardness to the sound, and the feel. Maybe it is simply that those fibers need to be interrupted at some point to feel right. I'm a big fan of liveliness in a guitar (in set necks I prefer long tenon to short, also I have one Strat and one Tele that are set necks and which feel more alive to me than all the bolt-ons I've got- except perhaps one exceptionally lively '63 Strat) but somehow no neck-thru axe has ever really done it for me.
The only neck-thru that I've ever really bonded with is a customshop Thunderbird. Could be the length, the lower frequency range, or interaction between the two. Or perhaps the fact that it's all mahogany, whereas nearly every neck-thru I've seen seems to have maple elements. I think that may be a significant factor there. But whatever the reason, that Tbird feels good to me.
I agree, the neck-thrus that I've played always had a certain hardness to the sound, and the feel. Maybe it is simply that those fibers need to be interrupted at some point to feel right. I'm a big fan of liveliness in a guitar (in set necks I prefer long tenon to short, also I have one Strat and one Tele that are set necks and which feel more alive to me than all the bolt-ons I've got- except perhaps one exceptionally lively '63 Strat) but somehow no neck-thru axe has ever really done it for me.
The only neck-thru that I've ever really bonded with is a customshop Thunderbird. Could be the length, the lower frequency range, or interaction between the two. Or perhaps the fact that it's all mahogany, whereas nearly every neck-thru I've seen seems to have maple elements. I think that may be a significant factor there. But whatever the reason, that Tbird feels good to me.
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kramersteen
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