Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
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Dumble Amp - oh my god
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Marinblues
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Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
Skrydstrup Amps. Two Rock....
I've seen both Larry Carlton and Robben Ford with these and they both sound amazing. They did sound amazing before they used Dumbles too, but they now sound a tidbit more amazing.
The fundemental "amazing" is in their hands and minds.
Regarding the price: my amp is worth 1000-1500$. There are many people out there who make 30 times the money I do, so why shouldn't they buy one.
Skrydstrup Amps. Two Rock....
I've seen both Larry Carlton and Robben Ford with these and they both sound amazing. They did sound amazing before they used Dumbles too, but they now sound a tidbit more amazing.
The fundemental "amazing" is in their hands and minds.
Regarding the price: my amp is worth 1000-1500$. There are many people out there who make 30 times the money I do, so why shouldn't they buy one.
Gearjoneser
Gear Ho
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
I think everyone in this thread is correct. That price is a result of everything from the mythical/eccentric builder, the supreme tone, the hype, the collectibility, the famous players who are among the few owners, the rarity of that particular amp in that condition.
That amp has become almost mythical, and there's several amp companies that build great clones...Two Rock, Fuchs, Mystic etc. I think Mystic actually makes a straightup copy.
I think everyone in this thread is correct. That price is a result of everything from the mythical/eccentric builder, the supreme tone, the hype, the collectibility, the famous players who are among the few owners, the rarity of that particular amp in that condition.
That amp has become almost mythical, and there's several amp companies that build great clones...Two Rock, Fuchs, Mystic etc. I think Mystic actually makes a straightup copy.
Hot _Grits
Buttery Toneologist
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
yeah, you can get a clone for a standard 'boutique' price. Leave the actual Dumbles to the blues laywers and rockstars.
yeah, you can get a clone for a standard 'boutique' price. Leave the actual Dumbles to the blues laywers and rockstars.
aleclee
Major General GAS
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
No such thing as a "straightup copy", really. Each amp that Dumble builds is voiced specifically for the player who ordered it. As a result, there's a pretty significant variation in the tone even between amps of the same "model".Gearjoneser said:
Vasshu the humanoid typhoon
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And yeah the Dumbles are custom made.
They take forever in assembly...:duh:
Hehe I hear you
And yeah the Dumbles are custom made.
They take forever in assembly...:duh:
aleclee
Major General GAS
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
First, you have to audition to get Dumble to agree to build one for you. It's primarily to give him an idea of how to voice the amp but I'm sure it also helps keep out the riff-raff. "Blues lawyers" (a term typically used by jealous players to disparage that which they cannot afford) can't get one built for them unless they have pro-level chops.
Secondly, you seem to grossly underestimate just how much better an amp can get. The first Two Rock I played (an Onyx, IIRC) left me underwhelmed when I played it. When I ran across my Emerald sitting in the used gear section of a Guitarget, I expected more of the same but after 20 minutes of playing that amp (as a bunch of shredders were warming up for Guitarmageddon), I had to have it. If you haven't experienced that it's nothing to be embarassed about but if you haven't actually played many high-end amps (whether though anti-snobbery or lack of opportunity), you aren't in a good position to authoritatively dis them.
That's a pretty ignorant statment on a variety of levels.Hot _Grits said:
First, you have to audition to get Dumble to agree to build one for you. It's primarily to give him an idea of how to voice the amp but I'm sure it also helps keep out the riff-raff. "Blues lawyers" (a term typically used by jealous players to disparage that which they cannot afford) can't get one built for them unless they have pro-level chops.
Secondly, you seem to grossly underestimate just how much better an amp can get. The first Two Rock I played (an Onyx, IIRC) left me underwhelmed when I played it. When I ran across my Emerald sitting in the used gear section of a Guitarget, I expected more of the same but after 20 minutes of playing that amp (as a bunch of shredders were warming up for Guitarmageddon), I had to have it. If you haven't experienced that it's nothing to be embarassed about but if you haven't actually played many high-end amps (whether though anti-snobbery or lack of opportunity), you aren't in a good position to authoritatively dis them.
That90'sGuy
DyzaBoyzologist
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
Dumbles aren't even the ridiculously priced amps, Trainwrecks are.
Dumbles can be had from 10-15 grand, something like a mint Trainwreck Express is in the 25-30 grand range.
There are plenty of amp companies that try to do the "Dumble" thing or a slight variation of it, all of which were mentioned earlier in this thread: Fuchs ODS, Mystique Amplifiers Mystic Blues, Skrydstrup OD50, and the Two Rock Custom Reverb will get you in the ballpark (some options are obviously much more expensive than others).
Dumbles aren't even the ridiculously priced amps, Trainwrecks are.
Dumbles can be had from 10-15 grand, something like a mint Trainwreck Express is in the 25-30 grand range. There are plenty of amp companies that try to do the "Dumble" thing or a slight variation of it, all of which were mentioned earlier in this thread: Fuchs ODS, Mystique Amplifiers Mystic Blues, Skrydstrup OD50, and the Two Rock Custom Reverb will get you in the ballpark (some options are obviously much more expensive than others).
Trilogy
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This is a joke. Some of the best Blues tones ever, for ex. Clapton's BBreakers, B.B. King Live At Regal, Peter Green (FM)Live At The Shrine, Freddy King, and some others weren't achieved using a Dumbo, errr uh, Dumble
Many, myself included, will argue that SRV had better tone before the Dumble.
Whatever, there's a sucker born every minute.
This is a joke. Some of the best Blues tones ever, for ex. Clapton's BBreakers, B.B. King Live At Regal, Peter Green (FM)Live At The Shrine, Freddy King, and some others weren't achieved using a Dumbo, errr uh, Dumble
Many, myself included, will argue that SRV had better tone before the Dumble.
Whatever, there's a sucker born every minute.
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
I have to agree with Hot Grits on this- I thought 'blues lawyers' was a term describing white, wealthy, non-pro, middle age men who need some connection with their youth by collecting expensive vintage and new-but-made-to-look-and-sound vintage gear and playing the minor pentatonic scale no matter what chord progression it is over. They tend to pour over Vintage Guitar magazine and put more of the focus on 'bragging rights' than actually playing. They usually own a few sportscars or a Harley too.
In any case, Im a pro, and can't afford a Dumble...most pros can't, but then again, most pros can't afford huge houses, nice cars, health insurance, etc...I have never bought a custom amp, but I have bought custom guitars...As a pro, if I were going to go the custom route, I'd rather give my money to an amp builder who will charge a fair price for the time and effort involved.
aleclee said:
I have to agree with Hot Grits on this- I thought 'blues lawyers' was a term describing white, wealthy, non-pro, middle age men who need some connection with their youth by collecting expensive vintage and new-but-made-to-look-and-sound vintage gear and playing the minor pentatonic scale no matter what chord progression it is over. They tend to pour over Vintage Guitar magazine and put more of the focus on 'bragging rights' than actually playing. They usually own a few sportscars or a Harley too.
In any case, Im a pro, and can't afford a Dumble...most pros can't, but then again, most pros can't afford huge houses, nice cars, health insurance, etc...I have never bought a custom amp, but I have bought custom guitars...As a pro, if I were going to go the custom route, I'd rather give my money to an amp builder who will charge a fair price for the time and effort involved.
newking70
GrumpyWorfologist
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WHAT?! i thought i finally found the proverbial chops in a boxTrilogy said:This is a joke. Some of the best Blues tones ever, for ex. Clapton's BBreakers, B.B. King Live At Regal, Peter Green (FM)Live At The Shrine, Freddy King, and some others weren't achieved using a Dumbo, errr uh, Dumble
Many, myself included, will argue that SRV had better tone before the Dumble.
Whatever, there's a sucker born every minute.
joelap
Red&Goldologist
Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
Jackpot: --> http://www.dunbleamplifiers.net/
cant view the page because I dont have the plugin on this computer in the library here at college, I'll check it out when I get home.
Jackpot: --> http://www.dunbleamplifiers.net/
cant view the page because I dont have the plugin on this computer in the library here at college, I'll check it out when I get home.
twoheadedboy
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Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
haha, the funniest part about that is that it's dusty. who sells an item for $10,000 and won't even bother wiping it off for a couple pictures?
haha, the funniest part about that is that it's dusty. who sells an item for $10,000 and won't even bother wiping it off for a couple pictures?
Mac-P
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Oh man, I'm bummed! :gurmpy:
The auction has ended, and it merely says $10,000.
For those of you who didn't catch the auction, the bidding was up to $29,000.00 (yes, twenty nine THOUSAND dollars).
I was SO looking forward to seeing how much it would grab....
Damn!
:smack:
Oh man, I'm bummed! :gurmpy:
The auction has ended, and it merely says $10,000.
For those of you who didn't catch the auction, the bidding was up to $29,000.00 (yes, twenty nine THOUSAND dollars).
I was SO looking forward to seeing how much it would grab....
Damn!
:smack:
Dave
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Re: Dumble Amp - oh my god
It's a relic!:laugh2:
I've heard they're great, but I always think of the folks who I believe have great tone and they don't play a dumble.
It's the vintage Ferrari 250 of amps. Those who want one will get one and pay for it. Thankfully, though, most buyers will most likely take very good care of it-maybe that's not such a bad thing.
twoheadedboy said:
It's a relic!:laugh2:
I've heard they're great, but I always think of the folks who I believe have great tone and they don't play a dumble.
It's the vintage Ferrari 250 of amps. Those who want one will get one and pay for it. Thankfully, though, most buyers will most likely take very good care of it-maybe that's not such a bad thing.