DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
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Hsb
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Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
Id keep the Ethereal if you are wanting wanting both verb and delay. Depending what you really want for those two, you will spend as much on the two when you have one that will do both.
For overdrive check out the TC Electronics mojomojo, Paul Gilbert is a fan of it, its like $50. Ive played with one and honestly its a pretty good od. As for an inexpensive distortion look at the TC Electronics Dark Matter, same price, kind of an inexpensive plexi in a box.
Id keep the Ethereal if you are wanting wanting both verb and delay. Depending what you really want for those two, you will spend as much on the two when you have one that will do both.
For overdrive check out the TC Electronics mojomojo, Paul Gilbert is a fan of it, its like $50. Ive played with one and honestly its a pretty good od. As for an inexpensive distortion look at the TC Electronics Dark Matter, same price, kind of an inexpensive plexi in a box.
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Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
Generally, for me, I need a compressor, overdrive, some kind of modulation (phaser, lately), and a delay that is controllable with an expression pedal. I have a tuner on there, too. I can get through a lot of gigs with these.
Generally, for me, I need a compressor, overdrive, some kind of modulation (phaser, lately), and a delay that is controllable with an expression pedal. I have a tuner on there, too. I can get through a lot of gigs with these.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
OK - DEEEEEEEEEEP breathe man! Settle down. [Smacks Dali in face - moderately hard] Get a grip man!!!!!
You can buy infinite pedals for infinite years and never be happy, or not ever buy another and rock on with your bad self.
Every player with an amp like that is going to want an Overdrive of some sort
- SD1 or TS9; Your call, watch a few Youtube vids to decide. No matter what you pick, there will always be a better one. https://youtu.be/17GJfzIvJgo
- The Joyo Sweet Baby gets a lot of love if cheap is your deal
- Think about a Mooer Green Mile also.
In the loop, as mentioned, there is basically swirl, delay and reverb.
- I hear you on the Reverb and will just sway go get a TC Hall of Fame and be done.
STOP RIGHT THERE and enjoy the the amp and pedals for a while!!!
That said, I'm gonna take a way different approach as you are new to this.
- Consider something like the Valeton. More than enough to get you through anything, and see what you like/don't. https://youtu.be/Tfz0jy6pxIA
- For way more fun, if you don't mind a little button pushing, try the Zoom MS70CDR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmMewItjkwk
- Or try three Mooer Pedals: Mod Factory, Reecho, and Shimverb
One of the above is NEVER a bad thing to have on hand to toss in a gig bag. You can play with those a long time and then really shop around for your "choice" pedal grabs. Any of those will really let you "explore" sounds for a long time.
It does ultimately come down to what music you play though:
Blues? Overdrive up front, reverb in the loop
Straight up 70's Rock? Wah + Overdrive + Phase up front, Analog Delay and Spring Reverb in the loop
80's Hair? Distortion pedal up front, Digital Delay and Chorus in the loop
Metal? Mega-dirt pedal like that Metal Muff and Noise gate in the loop
We can go on...
I often play through a little 4 pedal Mooer board of Distortion>Boost>Chorus>Delay and get along just fine all day
I play straight into a Hughes & Kettner with an H2O for Delay chorus and that's it a lot. Or just a Delay.
My gig rig for the band is a Wah straight in, and a Zoom Multifx programmed to oblivion for assorted shades of chorus, flange, harmony, pitch shift, delay, delay and more delay, and reverb.
Every Combo amp I have has reverb on it set to 3. Other stuff often gets delay only.
But - here is a couple of choice combos you would never be unhappy with:
#1. 2 Pedals, 7 sounds - H2O v2 gives Chorus + Delay, and two types of each. Add a Boss RV3 that has Delay, Reverb, or Delay + Reverb (Like 8 settings)
#2 Digitech Chorus Factory for 7 different chorusses, a Line 6 Delay Modeler and a TC Hall of Fame
If I had that though, and had to run out and get TWO pedals right away, it would be:
A Duncan 805 or Green Rhino, that does way more than the TS9 (Maybe a Bad Monkey)
An Ibanez AD9, an MXR Carbon Copy or some sort of analog delay like that
My reverb choice would be an EHX Nano Grail, but that's me. Like I said. Hall of Fame is never a bad call.
OK - DEEEEEEEEEEP breathe man! Settle down. [Smacks Dali in face - moderately hard] Get a grip man!!!!!
You can buy infinite pedals for infinite years and never be happy, or not ever buy another and rock on with your bad self.
Every player with an amp like that is going to want an Overdrive of some sort
- SD1 or TS9; Your call, watch a few Youtube vids to decide. No matter what you pick, there will always be a better one. https://youtu.be/17GJfzIvJgo
- The Joyo Sweet Baby gets a lot of love if cheap is your deal
- Think about a Mooer Green Mile also.
In the loop, as mentioned, there is basically swirl, delay and reverb.
- I hear you on the Reverb and will just sway go get a TC Hall of Fame and be done.
STOP RIGHT THERE and enjoy the the amp and pedals for a while!!!
That said, I'm gonna take a way different approach as you are new to this.
- Consider something like the Valeton. More than enough to get you through anything, and see what you like/don't. https://youtu.be/Tfz0jy6pxIA
- For way more fun, if you don't mind a little button pushing, try the Zoom MS70CDR https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SmMewItjkwk
- Or try three Mooer Pedals: Mod Factory, Reecho, and Shimverb
One of the above is NEVER a bad thing to have on hand to toss in a gig bag. You can play with those a long time and then really shop around for your "choice" pedal grabs. Any of those will really let you "explore" sounds for a long time.
It does ultimately come down to what music you play though:
Blues? Overdrive up front, reverb in the loop
Straight up 70's Rock? Wah + Overdrive + Phase up front, Analog Delay and Spring Reverb in the loop
80's Hair? Distortion pedal up front, Digital Delay and Chorus in the loop
Metal? Mega-dirt pedal like that Metal Muff and Noise gate in the loop
We can go on...
I often play through a little 4 pedal Mooer board of Distortion>Boost>Chorus>Delay and get along just fine all day
I play straight into a Hughes & Kettner with an H2O for Delay chorus and that's it a lot. Or just a Delay.
My gig rig for the band is a Wah straight in, and a Zoom Multifx programmed to oblivion for assorted shades of chorus, flange, harmony, pitch shift, delay, delay and more delay, and reverb.
Every Combo amp I have has reverb on it set to 3. Other stuff often gets delay only.
But - here is a couple of choice combos you would never be unhappy with:
#1. 2 Pedals, 7 sounds - H2O v2 gives Chorus + Delay, and two types of each. Add a Boss RV3 that has Delay, Reverb, or Delay + Reverb (Like 8 settings)
#2 Digitech Chorus Factory for 7 different chorusses, a Line 6 Delay Modeler and a TC Hall of Fame
If I had that though, and had to run out and get TWO pedals right away, it would be:
A Duncan 805 or Green Rhino, that does way more than the TS9 (Maybe a Bad Monkey)
An Ibanez AD9, an MXR Carbon Copy or some sort of analog delay like that
My reverb choice would be an EHX Nano Grail, but that's me. Like I said. Hall of Fame is never a bad call.
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beaubrummels
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Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
I have several MIBs, many delays, reverbs; Strymons, Wamplers, Carl Martin, TS-9+, EHX, TC Electronics, MXR, etc. Now I just use 1 Zoom MS-50G as the whole pedal board chain, maybe add a volume pedal.
I have several MIBs, many delays, reverbs; Strymons, Wamplers, Carl Martin, TS-9+, EHX, TC Electronics, MXR, etc. Now I just use 1 Zoom MS-50G as the whole pedal board chain, maybe add a volume pedal.
The Dali
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Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
Thanks!!! Great replies. My buddy who has been gigging a lot longer than me just told me... "building a pedalboard... the most fun you will have with guitar"
So I'm having a blast watching clips and checking things out. You are absoilutely right Ace, I don't NEED anything right now - so I'll poke around. I do like cheap and good to hear that you like the Mooer pedals. But I also don't want to buy $300 of cheap pedals and find that they break or suck and can't get rids of them.
Keep the ideas coming - definitely leaning toward a Super Overdrive SD-1.... I mean for $50 new??? Although the reviews on the SD 805 are great.
Thanks!!! Great replies. My buddy who has been gigging a lot longer than me just told me... "building a pedalboard... the most fun you will have with guitar"
So I'm having a blast watching clips and checking things out. You are absoilutely right Ace, I don't NEED anything right now - so I'll poke around. I do like cheap and good to hear that you like the Mooer pedals. But I also don't want to buy $300 of cheap pedals and find that they break or suck and can't get rids of them.
Keep the ideas coming - definitely leaning toward a Super Overdrive SD-1.... I mean for $50 new??? Although the reviews on the SD 805 are great.
The Dali
MeltedClockologist
Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
Also, I was playing with the Hoof Fuzz last night and I'm not sure what I'd use that for... maybe some Hendrix or Neil Young. Or White Stripes. I am more of a straight rockers/Prog guy so I might end up selling it to someone who would use it more and just pick up a cheap fuzz for misc use.... The Ethereal is really nice sounding, but seems like it has 1 or 2 sounds and not a lot of tweaking options for the Reverb.
Also, I was playing with the Hoof Fuzz last night and I'm not sure what I'd use that for... maybe some Hendrix or Neil Young. Or White Stripes. I am more of a straight rockers/Prog guy so I might end up selling it to someone who would use it more and just pick up a cheap fuzz for misc use.... The Ethereal is really nice sounding, but seems like it has 1 or 2 sounds and not a lot of tweaking options for the Reverb.
Hsb
Well-known member
Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
Watch this video, its by Josh (insert last name), he owns JHS pedals. He is talking Behringer pedals
https://youtu.be/ApJZa8yCMCQ
Watch this video, its by Josh (insert last name), he owns JHS pedals. He is talking Behringer pedals
https://youtu.be/ApJZa8yCMCQ
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
What is this "Get rid of a pedal thing?"
What is this "Get rid of a pedal thing?"
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
This has held up for 3+ years, numerous 3hr practices (often weekly) and even gigged.
Basically A Suhr Riot, a Proco Rat, an Exotic RC Booster, a Boss CE-2, and and your choice of 3 delay styles, Analog, something else, and tape.
This has held up for 3+ years, numerous 3hr practices (often weekly) and even gigged.
Basically A Suhr Riot, a Proco Rat, an Exotic RC Booster, a Boss CE-2, and and your choice of 3 delay styles, Analog, something else, and tape.
Hsb
Well-known member
Re: DUNCAN FORUM - help a pedal newbie out!!!
Thats the link I posted above you, you slow in your old age
Thats the link I posted above you, you slow in your old age
