Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

[Grindspine]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

It is one of many words of the compete fictitional languages created by the Professor..Elvish, in this case. Many of his creations have their their origins in other european mythology, most notably Norse/Asgardian mythos,, but this is not one of them.

I had to reread that to make sure you weren't defining "djent".

 

[idsnowdog]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

I have really crappy speakers on my laptop and I could easily hear that the Nazgul had better clarity especially on the low notes. I also don't think the classic rock argument has any merit. When was the last time you saw ZZ Top with an 8 string?

 

[youngthrasher9]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

It is one of many words of the compete fictitional languages created by the Professor..Elvish, in this case. Many of his creations have their their origins in other european mythology, most notably Norse/Asgardian mythos,, but this is not one of them.

Good to know.

 

[LeOtherGuy]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Detuned 6 string or 7 string, tight low end, noise gate and high gain, hitting palm muted power chords to make a percussive sound.

That doesn't make it Djent. By that logic, every modern metal band is Djent. Ola and Keith were playing straight-up death metal in that video.
And this demo perfectly showed what this pickup is designed to do. People who would buy it want a tight, clear pickup for their extended range guitars played through gained-out amps/modelers. That's exactly what was shown. They even compared it to an excellent benchmark and showed the differences clearly.

 

[zenmindbeginner]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Everything about that video was KILLER! Playing, tones, music and production are truly top notch.

The clarity and top end that pickup has is INTENSE! In the hands of someone like Ola who truly is not scared of letting the treble of his guitar breathe freely, it sounds SUPER high resolution.

Keith's Kemper 5150 profile was just sick!!!

Misha is probably GASsing right now. lolz

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Death/Black/Doom is defined by lyrical content, not playing style. Djent is the style of playing, not lyrical content.

So did they change the Pegasus to Nazgul?

 

[TheLivingDead]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

^ what is that gif with monster and 'punk girl' (??) clip from....I've got this deja-vu thing going.

It's from a wonderful little movie called "TerrorVision".

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Heh, I remember that!



These ****ers sound good to me, now make them in a 6 string version and nevermind these nubs talkin' 'bout 7 & 8 strings being different, because it's not, if you tune to A, duh.

 

[Grindspine]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Death/Black/Doom is defined by lyrical content, not playing style. Djent is the style of playing, not lyrical content.

So did they change the Pegasus to Nazgul?

The Pegasus and Nazgul are two separate pickups, both designed for 7/8 string guitars from what I have read thus far. The Sentient is a third pickup, but made for neck position while the other two are for bridge. At least that is what I have seen so far.

And between death metal and black metal, there is a difference in playing genre to my ears. I still consider Dissection - The Somberlain to be a pretty definitive album for black metal while Death - Spiritual Healing or Sepultura - Arise are pretty defininitive death metal (not to be confused with progressive death metal, melodic death metal, or metalcore). I will admit that both genres share a lot and are easily blurred. Really though, to my ears, the first solo (the one on the Nazgul bridge pickup) sounded straight up black metal to me.

 

[timhatimay]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Death/Black/Doom is defined by lyrical content, not playing style. Djent is the style of playing, not lyrical content.

So did they change the Pegasus to Nazgul?

I have to disagree with this. While they do share some characteristics, death and black metal sounds very different overall. Same with Doom. While black-metal often gets cornered into just being about the image and lyrics, it really does have a unique sound different from other types of metal (including death and doom). I don't know or listen to any djent (that I know of?), so I can't comment on that.

But back on-topic, I missed a few months, and now there is new pickups! However, I don't any guitar with more than 6 strings, so it doesn't looks like it does me any good. Its always harder for me to pin-point pickup differences on youtube videos with a whole band, or part of a band context, but it did have a distinct character when compared to the distortion. A little crisp and metallic or something on the low strings.

Tim

 

[Edgecrusher]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

And between death metal and black metal, there is a difference in playing genre to my ears. I still consider Dissection - The Somberlain to be a pretty definitive album for black metal while Death - Spiritual Healing or Sepultura - Arise are pretty defininitive death metal (not to be confused with progressive death metal, melodic death metal, or metalcore). I will admit that both genres share a lot and are easily blurred. Really though, to my ears, the first solo (the one on the Nazgul bridge pickup) sounded straight up black metal to me.

Hair splitting aside... its still not Djent, which is the claim that started all this

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

the first solo (the one on the Nazgul bridge pickup) sounded straight up black metal to me.

That and the typical BM chords are all over this. Super polished, but I like it.

 

[LeOtherGuy]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Black metal, death metal, blackened death metal... whatever. Still a good demo, and not djent. Though I'm sure this pickup would be perfect for that job.

 

[B2D]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

How many metalheads does it take to change a light bulb?

Three. One changes the bulb and the other two argue about what kind of light bulb it is.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Well it's not like we're discussing Country vs Rock here, which is relatively straightforward to separate. We're splitting hairs over the amount of Diminished vs Augmented 2 and 3-finger chords, string guage, tuning, and whether someone's making more use of Locrian or Ionian, yet trying to make it sound like Swedish vs Australian vs Swahili.

 

[King IzzO)))]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

The point was that it's not what the kids call djent, I don't think anyone was debating anything else.

 

[DrNewcenstein]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Since the guy from Meshugga is credited with coming up with the word, specifically in reference to a similar style of music as to what Meshugga play, I'd say his definition is the one that matters. From what I've heard in that style, the slight oscillation of a hard-hit open string of a chord which is then tightly palm-muted is about the only difference between the various other mentioned musical styles. The rest is still the same.

 

[Grindspine]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Heh, just to keep the pointlessness going. I still think Djent should have this definition.

It is one of many words of the compete fictitional languages created by the Professor..Elvish, in this case. Many of his creations have their their origins in other european mythology, most notably Norse/Asgardian mythos,, but this is not one of them.

Of course, yes, I have heard it used to describe Meshuggah - percussive, downtuned, etc...

Anyhow, the Nazgul sounds pretty damn good for metal to me, be it black, death, blackened death, grindcore, doom, metalcore, pneu metahl, etc.

The solo with the Sentient does not totally vibe the way I was hoping though.

 

[Glyph]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

Death/Black/Doom is defined by lyrical content, not playing style. Djent is the style of playing, not lyrical content.

So did they change the Pegasus to Nazgul?

No, as far as I know they are still 2 separate beasts. the SD website shows both models listed.

 

[guitfiddle]

Re: Duncan Nazgul and Sentient vid

It is one of many words of the compete fictitional languages created by the Professor..Elvish, in this case. Many of his creations have their their origins in other european mythology, most notably Norse/Asgardian mythos,, but this is not one of them.

*LOTR Geek Alert*

Actually, the word comes from Orkish...with "Nazg" being "ring" and "Ul" being "wraith" :22:

/ Geek Out