EMG pickups have a "Quick Connect." That means there is a connection on the lead, which snaps together. So if you change from one EMG to another, you just unsnap one and snap in a new pickup...no wires to mess with. If Duncan and DiMarzio started doing this to their pickups that would be AMAZING. Just think, you could take out a crap emg HZ and snap in a JB in like 10 seconds.
Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
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JB_From_Hell
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
Perhaps EMG has some a patent, as they're the only quick-connect product I know of.
If they DO have a patent, I say good for them. It's a little more innovative than double-cream coils, and should've been thought of before they introduced them.
That just reminded me, awhile back, I was talking pickups with a local shop owner. He said that sometime back, a company (couldn't remember who) had introduced a guitar with a snap-in pickup changing system. You could get a vintage, a medium, a really hot one, or a single coil. The problem was, most players aren't like the members of this forum. They typically get a decent sound, and never change it. I'd imagine that most of Seymour (or DiMarzio, or EMG)'s customers get a pickup, are blown away by how much better it sounds, and never think about trying a different one.
Still, though, it would be cool to change without firing up the iron everytime.
Perhaps EMG has some a patent, as they're the only quick-connect product I know of.
If they DO have a patent, I say good for them. It's a little more innovative than double-cream coils, and should've been thought of before they introduced them.
That just reminded me, awhile back, I was talking pickups with a local shop owner. He said that sometime back, a company (couldn't remember who) had introduced a guitar with a snap-in pickup changing system. You could get a vintage, a medium, a really hot one, or a single coil. The problem was, most players aren't like the members of this forum. They typically get a decent sound, and never change it. I'd imagine that most of Seymour (or DiMarzio, or EMG)'s customers get a pickup, are blown away by how much better it sounds, and never think about trying a different one.
Still, though, it would be cool to change without firing up the iron everytime.
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TheArchitect
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
I'll pass. Those gadget type things inevitably break and in my opinion don't necessarily make the best electrical connection. It takes five minutes to solder in a pup. What is the big deal?
deadlock said:
I'll pass. Those gadget type things inevitably break and in my opinion don't necessarily make the best electrical connection. It takes five minutes to solder in a pup. What is the big deal?
MetalWarrior
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
i think the ampeg dan armstrong sig. guitar had something like that.JB_From_Hell said:Perhaps EMG has some a patent, as they're the only quick-connect product I know of.
If they DO have a patent, I say good for them. It's a little more innovative than double-cream coils, and should've been thought of before they introduced them.
That just reminded me, awhile back, I was talking pickups with a local shop owner. He said that sometime back, a company (couldn't remember who) had introduced a guitar with a snap-in pickup changing system. You could get a vintage, a medium, a really hot one, or a single coil. The problem was, most players aren't like the members of this forum. They typically get a decent sound, and never change it. I'd imagine that most of Seymour (or DiMarzio, or EMG)'s customers get a pickup, are blown away by how much better it sounds, and never think about trying a different one.
Still, though, it would be cool to change without firing up the iron everytime.
TattooedCarrot
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
Even if they did, I think it would only be compatible with like-pickups. FYI, the clip-on connectors on the HZ's are not a match for the active EMG's. Not only that, even if they were HZ's are passive and use 500k pots whereas the EMG's being active require a 25k pot. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
But I agree, I would love it if Duncan did the same, I would buy more of their pickups to just swap around without having to pay my tech $25 everytime I want to try another pup out.
deadlock said:
Even if they did, I think it would only be compatible with like-pickups. FYI, the clip-on connectors on the HZ's are not a match for the active EMG's. Not only that, even if they were HZ's are passive and use 500k pots whereas the EMG's being active require a 25k pot. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
But I agree, I would love it if Duncan did the same, I would buy more of their pickups to just swap around without having to pay my tech $25 everytime I want to try another pup out.
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theodie
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
The Dan armstrong guitar and bass had a system that had connectors that hooked up the pickup and a screw in the back of the guitar or bass that detached the pickup from the body.MetalWarrior said:
SheDoesntDoIt4Me
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
Tell me your joking Carrot...with all the sales you do and the gear you have, you dont change your own pups? Dude your missing out on a enjoyable pastime, not to mention tossing cash down the toilet. :smack:
TattooedCarrot said:
Tell me your joking Carrot...with all the sales you do and the gear you have, you dont change your own pups? Dude your missing out on a enjoyable pastime, not to mention tossing cash down the toilet. :smack:
XSSIVE
OCDologist
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
i guess you guys don't work on cars much huh??? you can make a quick connect setup 1-2-3 for pickups. all you need to do are solder tails off of the ground, the switch and the pot where they normally go and at the end of them use either a male or female insulated quick disconnect (shown below) and on the pickup put the opposite male or female quick disconnect then you can plug in your pickups 1-2-3 and swap them real quick....here are the quick disconnects you can get them at any auto store and most hardware stores (pep-boys etc.. or even sears)
male:
female:
you would need the small red ones which work with wire gauge from 22-18 gauge. these can be soldered on or crimped on or crimped then soldered...your choice. your connection with these will be 99% as good as if you solder the wires and you shouldn't notice any change in performance or sound. these are used all the time in cars and car audio setups. even though the female side has a plastic cover to hide the metal connection and sheild it i suggest putting a bit of electrical tape around it just to be extra safe.
if anyone is confused as to how this would work let me know and i'll draw a diagram for you guys.
-Mike
i guess you guys don't work on cars much huh??? you can make a quick connect setup 1-2-3 for pickups. all you need to do are solder tails off of the ground, the switch and the pot where they normally go and at the end of them use either a male or female insulated quick disconnect (shown below) and on the pickup put the opposite male or female quick disconnect then you can plug in your pickups 1-2-3 and swap them real quick....here are the quick disconnects you can get them at any auto store and most hardware stores (pep-boys etc.. or even sears)
male:
female:
you would need the small red ones which work with wire gauge from 22-18 gauge. these can be soldered on or crimped on or crimped then soldered...your choice. your connection with these will be 99% as good as if you solder the wires and you shouldn't notice any change in performance or sound. these are used all the time in cars and car audio setups. even though the female side has a plastic cover to hide the metal connection and sheild it i suggest putting a bit of electrical tape around it just to be extra safe.
if anyone is confused as to how this would work let me know and i'll draw a diagram for you guys.
-Mike
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TheArchitect
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Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
Well, I think if they had the soldering skills to put in those clips we wouldn't be having this discussion.
XSSIVE said:i guess you guys don't work on cars much huh??? you can make a quick connect setup 1-2-3 for pickups. all you need to do are solder tails off of the ground, the switch and the pot where they normally go and at the end of them use either a male or female insulated quick disconnect (shown below) and on the pickup put the opposite male or female quick disconnect then you can plug in your pickups 1-2-3 and swap them real quick....here are the quick disconnects you can get them at any auto store and most hardware stores (pep-boys etc.. or even sears)
male:
female:
you would need the small red ones which work with wire gauge from 22-18 gauge. these can be soldered on or crimped on or crimped then soldered...your choice. your connection with these will be 99% as good as if you solder the wires and you shouldn't notice any change in performance or sound. these are used all the time in cars and car audio setups. even though the female side has a plastic cover to hide the metal connection and sheild it i suggest putting a bit of electrical tape around it just to be extra safe.
if anyone is confused as to how this would work let me know and i'll draw a diagram for you guys.
-Mike
Well, I think if they had the soldering skills to put in those clips we wouldn't be having this discussion.
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
The connection may not be as good as soldering, but nobody seems to take issue with the crappy contact of the typical 1/4" plug that's used to string together a half dozen effects. IMO, if the connector is well made and designed with this use in mind, it could be very cool.
The connection may not be as good as soldering, but nobody seems to take issue with the crappy contact of the typical 1/4" plug that's used to string together a half dozen effects. IMO, if the connector is well made and designed with this use in mind, it could be very cool.
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HeadBanginologist
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
hol;y ****!!
the infamous deadlock!!!
looks like they must've kick you out of the metallica boards again
btw, i havent heard your clips in ages, got any more i can hear :headbang:
hol;y ****!!
the infamous deadlock!!!
looks like they must've kick you out of the metallica boards again
btw, i havent heard your clips in ages, got any more i can hear :headbang:
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
JB From Hell The company your referring to is mastertone pickups which was run by Tony Snape in South Australia. There was nothing but good word bout his pickups which were infact active but supposedly more passive sounding then alot of passives but with the benefits of being active. I was gonna get a set of em untill something went wrong.
Id sent him emails in the past and he was always quick to reply but when i sent emails to order some pickups he never replied then i heard that hed gone out of buisness, then on the board infact i heard thats hed had some kinda car accident and had spinal injury. I only hope thats hes now recovering and in good health.
JB From Hell The company your referring to is mastertone pickups which was run by Tony Snape in South Australia. There was nothing but good word bout his pickups which were infact active but supposedly more passive sounding then alot of passives but with the benefits of being active. I was gonna get a set of em untill something went wrong.
Id sent him emails in the past and he was always quick to reply but when i sent emails to order some pickups he never replied then i heard that hed gone out of buisness, then on the board infact i heard thats hed had some kinda car accident and had spinal injury. I only hope thats hes now recovering and in good health.
TattooedCarrot
New member
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
I tried, but I suck at it, I always screw it up. I'm the kinda guy who just pays other people to do **** for me. I wish I could do more. Same applys to household repairs, I don't fix **** myself, just call someone to do it right. It once took me 2 1/2 hours to put together my daughter's tricycle that the instructions said should take 20 minutes - and I had mystery parts left over.SheDoesntDoIt4Me said:
That defeats the purpose. If we knew how to do that stuff we wouldn't be wanting the clip-on connectors in the first place. The point of the quick connect is to avoid all that and just plug & play.XSSIVE said:
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
+1, yep, the one I saw was on a lucite body, had a single coil, and a humbucker ... may have had a third pup that got lost (it was used), pop one pup out and pop in another between songs. Kinda cool, didn't care for the lucite thing though. This was single pup model, the pup slide up and out, the locked into place ... really reliable actually.
MetalWarrior said:
+1, yep, the one I saw was on a lucite body, had a single coil, and a humbucker ... may have had a third pup that got lost (it was used), pop one pup out and pop in another between songs. Kinda cool, didn't care for the lucite thing though. This was single pup model, the pup slide up and out, the locked into place ... really reliable actually.
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
I worked on my own quite a bit, however I never can seem to find them that would be quite small enough for pup leads and DPDT switch lugs, the red aren't small enough really, not to mention the larger standard switch lugs (assuming one wants to be real anal and have everything clip together). I find you have to solder the conductor in place (leaving a bit going thru the connector ... 3mm or so) crimp it, and then apply the iron again to remelt the solder inside the sleeve of the connector for an even connection. Also as far as conneting wires togther, the bullet and receptacle connectors tend to work a bit better than the spade and lug connectors, but that's personally choice ... I just can't find them small enough.
XSSIVE said:i guess you guys don't work on cars much huh??? you can make a quick connect setup 1-2-3 for pickups. all you need to do are solder tails off of the ground, the switch and the pot where they normally go and at the end of them use either a male or female insulated quick disconnect (shown below) and on the pickup put the opposite male or female quick disconnect then you can plug in your pickups 1-2-3 and swap them real quick....here are the quick disconnects you can get them at any auto store and most hardware stores (pep-boys etc.. or even sears)
male:
female:
you would need the small red ones which work with wire gauge from 22-18 gauge. these can be soldered on or crimped on or crimped then soldered...your choice. your connection with these will be 99% as good as if you solder the wires and you shouldn't notice any change in performance or sound. these are used all the time in cars and car audio setups. even though the female side has a plastic cover to hide the metal connection and sheild it i suggest putting a bit of electrical tape around it just to be extra safe.
if anyone is confused as to how this would work let me know and i'll draw a diagram for you guys.
-Mike
I worked on my own quite a bit, however I never can seem to find them that would be quite small enough for pup leads and DPDT switch lugs, the red aren't small enough really, not to mention the larger standard switch lugs (assuming one wants to be real anal and have everything clip together). I find you have to solder the conductor in place (leaving a bit going thru the connector ... 3mm or so) crimp it, and then apply the iron again to remelt the solder inside the sleeve of the connector for an even connection. Also as far as conneting wires togther, the bullet and receptacle connectors tend to work a bit better than the spade and lug connectors, but that's personally choice ... I just can't find them small enough.
crazytooguy
New member
Re: Duncan needs to do the EMG "quick connect"
The connectors you're looking for are made by a company called Molex. They are essentially the same as the EMG connectors, if they aren't exactly the same. I use a plug and socket set at each pickup in the guitars I make. I then rout the wiring and semi-permanently attach the wires to the guitar body. Then, if the player wants to switch pickups, he need only remove the pickup and unplug the connector. This way, I can make sure that the pickup lead wire is the highest quality possible (I use silver plated copper wire with a Teflon insulation) and is correctly shielded. It's a small feature that us custom builders like to add to guitars. May not make a big difference to most, but some players love these little touches. It's really great for compulsive pickup-swappers (you know who you are!!).
The Molex connectors I use are the K.K. series 0.100" spacing. I use a three conductor for single coils (so I can isolate any pickup shield from the ground connection) and a five conductor for humbuckers. The three conductor plug is less than 3/8" wide, so they're really small. The connection quality is very good. I've never had an issue with loss of signal, even with really high impedance pickups.
The connectors you're looking for are made by a company called Molex. They are essentially the same as the EMG connectors, if they aren't exactly the same. I use a plug and socket set at each pickup in the guitars I make. I then rout the wiring and semi-permanently attach the wires to the guitar body. Then, if the player wants to switch pickups, he need only remove the pickup and unplug the connector. This way, I can make sure that the pickup lead wire is the highest quality possible (I use silver plated copper wire with a Teflon insulation) and is correctly shielded. It's a small feature that us custom builders like to add to guitars. May not make a big difference to most, but some players love these little touches. It's really great for compulsive pickup-swappers (you know who you are!!).
The Molex connectors I use are the K.K. series 0.100" spacing. I use a three conductor for single coils (so I can isolate any pickup shield from the ground connection) and a five conductor for humbuckers. The three conductor plug is less than 3/8" wide, so they're really small. The connection quality is very good. I've never had an issue with loss of signal, even with really high impedance pickups.