Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

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robo

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Hi all! I have a tele want it wired in series instead of parallell.

I've googled a bit but I only find 4-way versions, but I don't want that. I just want to change my 3-way to be series in the middle position.

I use the chroma75 Antimud wiring (pic below).

How's the easiest way to get it in series?
I'm know how to solder but I'm no tech guy. So please explain it like I'm an idiot. (I kind of is anyway ;).

antimud.jpg



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Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

allbutromeo said:
This should get you there.
https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/27284-mod-garage-lean-mean-series-wiring-for-telecasters
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I don't see how that diagram works...it's missing something. I think the shunt wire going from the left (bottom) side of the switch to the right (top) side of the switch is on the wrong lug. The way it is, in position 2 the bridge pup is disconnected and in position 3 the bridge and neck are in series. That blue diagonal shunt wire needs to be connected to the right (top) side of the switch at lug 3 not lug 4. Then it will work correctly.

It really amazes me how many diagrams on that site are incorrect. Do they never proof read their diagrams before posting them?!
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

Look for a Oak Grigsby 4 way switch and follow their schematics.
 
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I didn't think you could do this with a normal 3 way switch. Can it be done without also adding something else in there?
 
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GuitarDoc said:
Yes, look at my post #2 above.
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Yep, Dirks schematic should work. Nevertheless i would miss the parallel coils sound of neck and bridge. Some guys here modify their strats only to get that sound.
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

Series-in-the-middle ain't a normal 3-way switch option

Series wires pickups end to end, (+) to (-)

What you COULD do is make it a Bridge-only, Bridge-Neck-series (or Neck only, Bridge-neck-series) switch
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

Below is my hasty take... [EDITED to make it clearer: something in the schematic was "upside down" comparatively to the following explanations ...]

Regular Tele Switch.

Use 1 SIDE of the switch only.

Tap together hot from bridge (orange) and ground from neck (purple) to COMMON lug.

Neck hot goes DIRECTLY to the volume pot.

Bridge ground goes... to ground.

Lug one goes to volume pot, joining the neck hot.

Lug 2 is void.

Lug 3 goes to ground.

Neck cover MUST be soldered to ground SEPARATELY from the coil.

Position 1: neck hot goes to volume. Neck ground goes to volume too. Neck disabled. Bridge hot goes to volume and bridge ground to ground: bridge enabled.

Position 2: neck hot goes to volume. Neck ground goes to bridge hot. Bridge ground goes to ground. Pickups are in series.

Position 3: neck hot goes to volume. Neck ground goes to ground. Bridge hot goes to ground with bridge ground. Neck is enabled, bridge disabled.

FWIW. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong (after all it was just an attempt to help). :-)

View attachment 97277Tele 3 ways wiring single series single.jpg
 
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Looks like with the first diagram, the neck pickup coil is always part of the circuit; and with the second diagram both pickup coils are always part of the circuit. If they are RWRP, I imagine the second diagram could be humbucking in all positions?
 
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Hey, as I've posted on a hurry, I've forgotten the question of the tone pot... With the schematic that I've botched above, it's not possible to connect the tone control to the switch: it must be connected to the volume pot.

If it's a problem, possible solutions are...
-a 1M tone control;
-a no load tone pot (or a TBX);
-50's wiring (tone pot connected to center lug of the volume pot).

... or using the second side of the switch. Second pic below, enabling the tone pot only in bridge pos.; a fellow member will correct it if it's wrong.

Tele 3 ways wiring single series single tone pot 4 bridge only.jpg
 
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freefrog said:
Hey, as I've posted on a hurry, I've forgotten the question of the tone pot... With the schematic that I've botched above, it's not possible to connect the tone control to the switch: it must be connected to the volume pot.

If it's a problem, possible solutions are...
-a 1M tone control;
-a no load tone pot (or a TBX);
-50's wiring (tone pot connected to center lug of the volume pot).

... or using the second side of the switch. Second pic below, enabling the tone pot only in bridge pos.; a fellow member will correct it if it's wrong.

View attachment 97278
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If this works connecting the tonepot to the second side of the switch, its really a home run! Exactely what I eanted out of this post. Thanks Freefrog!
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

beaubrummels said:
Looks like with the first diagram, the neck pickup coil is always part of the circuit; and with the second diagram both pickup coils are always part of the circuit. If they are RWRP, I imagine the second diagram could be humbucking in all positions?
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Yes, it "looks like"... Problem is how the two rows of lugs are pictured in the original schematic above (post 1), reversing horizontally other schematics like this one:

https://www.premierguitar.com/ext/r...0/Blogs/Nov13_PG_CLM_ModGarage_image2_WEB.jpg

It can make us believe that the switch is drawed "from above" rather than "from below", creating a confusion between common lugs and position 1 (or 3). :-/

Reason why I've corrected my fuzzy schematics. Hope to have drunk enough coffee to clear it up this time.

robo, I've sent you a PM about that. :-)
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

robo said:
If this works connecting the tonepot to the second side of the switch, its really a home run! Exactely what I eanted out of this post. Thanks Freefrog!
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You're welcome. Sorry for some hesitations explained in my reply 14... I hope that all will work correctly for you. Let us know, thx... :-)
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

Have checked the schematic in my answer 9 with a standard 3 positions Fender Tele Switch, two single coils and a few alligator clips: according to the readings on my DMM, it worked for me... so it should work for other people. :-)

If time permits, I'll try it too with a volume pot added to the circuit then with a "position dependent" tone pot on the other side of the switch like in the answer 12. "More later", maybe.

Have a nice day everybody.
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

freefrog said:
Below is my hasty take... [EDITED to make it clearer: something in the schematic was "upside down" comparatively to the following explanations ...]

Regular Tele Switch.

Use 1 SIDE of the switch only.

Tap together hot from bridge (orange) and ground from neck (purple) to COMMON lug.

Neck hot goes DIRECTLY to the volume pot.

Bridge ground goes... to ground.

Lug one goes to volume pot, joining the neck hot.

Lug 2 is void.

Lug 3 goes to ground.

Neck cover MUST be soldered to ground SEPARATELY from the coil.

Position 1: neck hot goes to volume. Neck ground goes to volume too. Neck disabled. Bridge hot goes to volume and bridge ground to ground: bridge enabled.

Position 2: neck hot goes to volume. Neck ground goes to bridge hot. Bridge ground goes to ground. Pickups are in series.

Position 3: neck hot goes to volume. Neck ground goes to ground. Bridge hot goes to ground with bridge ground. Neck is enabled, bridge disabled.

FWIW. If I’m wrong, I’m wrong (after all it was just an attempt to help). :-)

View attachment 97277View attachment 97280
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Yes, that works too. There's more than one way to skin a cat or wire a switch.
 
Re: Easiest way to get my Tele in series?

Thanks for confirming, doc.

Now I hope that the whole stuff will help robo.
 
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