EDI box?

[FretFire]

Re: EDI box?

If the bassman is 4 ohms, you'll want a 4 ohm hotplate. You should also probably run it into the correct load in this scenario, too.

 

[drew_half_empty]

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but will that mess it up when its being run into an 8 ohm power amp?

 

[FretFire]

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The signal going into the power amp will not be at a 4 ohm level if it's coming from a DI out, you could run that signal to a PC for recording so it won't be that hot. That's why you need the power amp to juice it up before it hits the speakers in the first place.

 

[FretFire]

Re: EDI box?

Keep in mind a THD Hot Plate will run you ~$250.

 

[drew_half_empty]

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eh thats nop big deal, it'll just delay my strat project

 

[skyydogg01]

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drew, the impedence of the power amp doesn't matter. that 8 ohms is the OUTPUT impedence. the input is a whole lot more than that. the signal coming out of the hotplate is just what it needs. there is no need to worry about that.

edit: the output impedence on a solid state amp is usually a range. Like 2 to 8, 4 to 16, etc. the general rule of thumb is that if the load is lower than the rating, then the amp will blow; if it's above, it'll get hot and go through a thermal shutdown. my crate head is perfectly happy with 4 or 8 ohms load with no need to switch anything. there are some amplifiers that are stable down to 1 ohm.

 

[FretFire]

Re: EDI box?

I still say you should do some more research before you blow a bunch of cash on this little endeavour...

I personally don't like the tone of my amp out of a DI box that much, at least not the DI out on my attenuator. The tone will probably be a lot different after being squashed by the attenuator and pumped back up by a SS power amp than it is right out of your combo. You said you wanted little tone coloration, I'm guessing this isn't the best way to achieve that...

 

[drew_half_empty]

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so what would be the best way, that's not micing it

 

[aleclee]

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so what would be the best way, that's not micing it

Get a new amp.

Seriously.

...and why the preoccupation with not micing?

 

[drew_half_empty]

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i don't want a new one, this thing sounds fantastic, i'd never record with anything else

and micing at small venues looks REALLY weak, and at practice its not an option, cuz the PA we got can barely handle vocals

 

[skyydogg01]

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i'll edit my previous recommendation. you are going to have 2 cabs right? put the hotplate or which ever one you decide to use IN LINE between your bassman and one cab. now, using the di out from the hotplate, go straight into your power amp and out to the other cab. run the hotplate with no attenuation. that will give you power from both your bassman and the power amp which will be friggin' loud.

 

[drew_half_empty]

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ok heres the thing

there's no way to make both cabs 8 ohms, the speakers only come in 8, so i hafta get 2 - 16 ohms & daisy chain them for an 8 ohm load

but i do have a 1x12 8 ohm

 

[skyydogg01]

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gotcha, i stand corrected

 

[drew_half_empty]

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and i don't think the power amp was designed to handle that much power in its input so what you're suggesting would probably blow crap up

 

[skyydogg01]

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no, not if you are using a hotplate or some sort of di box in between. what i was suggesting was that the hotplate was taping into the signal from your bassman, dropping it down to a level that can be used in a power amp. it's basically dropping the power from speaker level to line level.

 

[TheJangus]

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i don't want a new one, this thing sounds fantastic, i'd never record with anything else

and micing at small venues looks REALLY weak, and at practice its not an option, cuz the PA we got can barely handle vocals

Why not upgrade your PA then? Sounds like it would be money better spent.

and who the hell cares if you mic it or not? What looks REALLY weak is giving a crap what other people think. Thats not rocknroll.

 

[drew_half_empty]

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Its like this.... http://www.geocities.com/ericmeyer4/di.html?1109085135656

"like a pa" is meaning that you are running the poweramp and cab like a pa system because normally with a di box you would run it to a pa system.

make sure you use speaker cables between the bassman, di, and cab. and between the poweramp and cab 2. a XLR-1/4" cable will probably have to be used between the DI and power amp. and with the DI make sure the ground is lifted. it will say it all in your directions.

this is probably my best option. For the bassman cab I'll just use the little 1x12, and for the poweramp cab I'll use the 2 2x12's

 

[skyydogg01]

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this is probably my best option. For the bassman cab I'll just use the little 1x12, and for the poweramp cab I'll use the 2 2x12's

and then you can use your little 1X12 as a monitor

 

[drew_half_empty]

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how would i set the attenuation on the DI box though? 20, 40, or none at all?

 

[FretFire]

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and micing at small venues looks REALLY weak, and at practice its not an option, cuz the PA we got can barely handle vocals

I'm sorry but that's a horrible excuse. Who cares how it looks if it SOUNDS good? Get over the appearance thing, seriously. That could solve your problem right there.