Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

[ledzepp29]

That would be so cool, in case I used the wrong words in the description I mean a pedal thats purpose was to make a guitar sound like 2 guitars were playing the same lead at one time?... like many thin lizzy solos and brian may solos when he double records a solo? just curious because that would be awesome.

 

[proxy]

Re: Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

Slight delay might help run into another amp.

 

[ledzepp29]

Re: Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

I was thinking of some sort of delay. I just asked because I can't stop druling over those harmonized thin lizzy solos and those thick, melodic, heavy finger vibratoed double recorded brian may leads.

 

[Mincer]

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you need an intelligent harmonizer...one that you can specify which scale you are using.. my roland gp-100 has this, so i can get my regular guitar misxed with up to 4 harmony parts, all within user defined scales.

 

[flank]

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i played a Boss shifter pedal that had a harmony type of thing..........dont remember what is was called tho

 

[joelap]

Re: Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

i played a Boss shifter pedal that had a harmony type of thing..........dont remember what is was called tho

Super Shifter :dance:

Another option is a Digitech Whammy, it's got a few harmony patches to it.

 

[kmcguitars]

Re: Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

i played a Boss shifter pedal that had a harmony type of thing..........dont remember what is was called tho

Yeah, I got a Boss digitai delay/Pitch shifter It's kinda limiting tho.
You can use the tuner out and set it to a Minor 3rd or a 5th or octive.
But you can only harmonize 1 or 2 notes in a scale. There's much better
units out there for this purpose. But Perfer to do it the old fashion way.
Find another guitar buddy and work them out. Or overdub your self.
Useing dem gadgets is Cheat'in IMHO :laugh2:

 

[Mincer]

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Cheatin, shmeatin...if it sounds cool do it. I regularly do twisted harmonies of minor 2nds, or other strange intervals...the solo to Yes' Owner of a Lonley Heart is played with lots of harmonized 5ths. I like the weird sounds I guess, not easily duplicated with another guitarist.

 

[y2stevo]

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Of course the best way is doing it for real by overdubbing to do that live isnt possible tho so really its not cheatin' if you need to do it live and only have 1 guitarist..i was interested in this a while ago but at the mo im investing in things like geetars an a 2x12 cab but i was lookin at the TC electronics G Force(?) it looks pretty cool and you can choose from any of the 7 modes and a few others, and user definable scales so that looks pretty versatile..

 

[zak]

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The best are the Eventide harmonisers. I dont think they are made anymore and they cost an absolute fortune.
Two more affordable ones are the Boss Harmonizer and the Digitech Whammy.
The Harmonizer is also no longer made, but they are quite common on ebay and dont cost too much. You can have two harmonies playing with your own sound, and you can use thirds, gourths, fifths, sixths and octaves. The problem is that if you are playing a solo and want the first part of your harmony to use thirds and the second part to use, say, fifths, then you are a bit buggered, as you would have to bend down in the middle of the solo and change the setting on the pedal. The harmonies also sound slightly fake and metallic. especially around the highest 12 or so notes on the guitar.
I havent tried the digitech, but i think they get round the problem of changing harmony key by having a foot controller (ie like on a volume/ wah wah pedal). I have been meaning to try out the whammy for ages, so if anyone else has played one please let us know what you think?

 

[TwilightOdyssey]

Re: Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

The best are the Eventide harmonisers. I dont think they are made anymore and they cost an absolute fortune.

Eventides are very much still in production. The latest model is called the Orville. As for expense, it really depends on what your budget is like. To some people, spending $1500 on a used Eventide is a steal.

With an Eventide you will be able to nail some really great soundind harmonies, but you will never be able to duplicate what happens when you actually play each harmony yourself. Brian May feeds multiple delays into each other and does a lot of his harmonising live. Whether an Eventide will give you what you're looking for is debatable, since the essense of those killer harmony parts is slight difference in vibrato and 'air' you get with each successive pass ... When I'm doing harmony parts live, either we will use two guitars, or one guitarist picks the most important part of the line and plays it and the other guitarist plays the riff beneath it . Most audiences are not that keyed into hearing harmony parts and won't even know what they're missing. And there's only so much you can pull of live, in any event, unless you pull a Maiden and have 3 guitarists ...

 

[Duncan]

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We use twin lead guitarists...old fashioned but it works surprisingly well

 

[RCM78]

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Boss made a decent pedal called the "Harmonist". They stopped making it and the replacement is the "Super Shifter".
I like the harmonist better...

You can find them on E-Bay...

 

[y2stevo]

Re: Effect for harmonized sounds?? ex. thin lizzy, brian may leads...

Eventides are very much still in production. The latest model is called the Orville. As for expense, it really depends on what your budget is like. To some people, spending $1500 on a used Eventide is a steal.

With an Eventide you will be able to nail some really great soundind harmonies, but you will never be able to duplicate what happens when you actually play each harmony yourself. Brian May feeds multiple delays into each other and does a lot of his harmonising live. Whether an Eventide will give you what you're looking for is debatable, since the essense of those killer harmony parts is slight difference in vibrato and 'air' you get with each successive pass ... When I'm doing harmony parts live, either we will use two guitars, or one guitarist picks the most important part of the line and plays it and the other guitarist plays the riff beneath it . Most audiences are not that keyed into hearing harmony parts and won't even know what they're missing. And there's only so much you can pull of live, in any event, unless you pull a Maiden and have 3 guitarists ...

Indeed, If its fast paul gilbert style harmonies playing stuff like that live without harmony wouldnt make alot of difference nor would it add much, thing like that would unless you "pull a maiden" work better with a strong rhythm and the lead,..But some slower more melodic stuff ie.interlude in puppets benefits more with having only bass ass the rhythm and dual guitar harmonies..In a live situation of course..