emg 85/60a review

alex1fly

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okay, so, the 85 is AWESOME. awesome. dude. playing on that pickup with heavy distortion literally brings a grin to my face. i'm absolutely sold on the 85. i love the way it responds as well - super sensitive to my fretting hand. i can play with a light touch but still get a massive, punchy sound. and cleans are great too, woody, clear - i just have to work that volume knob. for clean playing i'm running the volume knob at about halfway. i find that I'm playing things that I've only just thought about before; with the 85, I feel like the guitar is working with me rather than against me, like it picks up all the stuff i want to hear. its great to have silence between palm mutes on heavy breakdown-type riffs. sounds fine enough for more of a breakup type tone with the guitar volume cut and into a slightly overdriven channel... better than with the guitar volume on full into a clean channel, i think... the first way sounds more natural, the second way sounds not that great, but then those kinds of tones are not my thing as much.

the 60a is an interesting beast. It sounds surprisingly similar to the stock soapbar. Of course it is not the same, but it has many qualities in common, such as getting that honk when you dig in with the pick and having a lighter glassy tone when picked lightly. It has some definite vintage vibe to it, and sounds and feels more like a soapbar or PAF than does the 85 while the 60a is snappier, ruder, bites, and makes you work for the sound you want much like a regular soapbar does. With a little work from the volume knob and EQ, I can get jazzy tones, twangy tones, single coil-esque tones, all that. in fact the top end is bright and clear much like a single coil, while the mids and lows are woodier and fuller like a humbucker. there is something to be desired with this pup and a lot of gain however - it reminds me of a vintage single when heavily overdriven, bright top, boomy lows, not a lot of definition. my neck VPAF by comparison is still bright and full but retains note definition better, and sounds vocal with some highs rolled off.

both sound great with effects, i hear a lot of tone through the effects, and i've been inspired to jam with delay and phaser more... but this could be in my head :)

i'm not sure about the 60a's fate. i went active in this guitar because i wanted the active feel and sound, and aside from having massive output with guitar volume on 10, the 60a is not that different from the stock pickup. that can be good, in that it makes me clean up my playing and gives a different feel to the neck position, which inspires me in a different way than the 85; but there is quite a difference in feel when switching between the two, rather than a seamless transition like the Virtual PAFs in my les paul. i will not scratch it soon, and before i do i will try the 18v mod, swap the 60a and 85, try 9v and 18v there as well.

in conclusion, the 85 is a definite keeper, the 60a will take some more work before i'm happy with it. the 60a sounds very much like a pure amplification of the guitar strings - an amplified version of the unplugged sound. the 85 in contrast adds more of its own voice, i think. it still sounds like a prs, but it sounds like "a certain prs", if that makes any sense. it sounds like my prs-wielding bands, which is exactly what i wanted, but to get that, there must be a more aggressive voicing. whatever it is, i dig it.

guitar is a prs se soapbar... mahogany body and neck, rosewood fretboard, set neck. 85 is in the bridge, 60a is in the neck.
 
Re: emg 85/60a review

Cool review - may I suggest going with the standard 60? It should retain all the things you like about it, but brighten up the sound considerably!
 
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First impressions with the 18v mod... I don't think I'll keep it. The 85 is not nearly as crushing now... the compression of 9v is what makes it so fun to play. Now I have to beat the heck out of the strings to get the same chunk that I had before. The 60a sounds better, more clear, crisp. But I didn't buy EMGs for them to sound and feel like passives - I bought them for the active tone and feel!

Both the 60a and 85 have a lot more grit in the upper frequencies under high gain as well - not cool. It's funny, one man's organic is another man's sterile, one man's hi-fi is another man's mojo... so far, with 9v the 85 sounds great and the 60a sounds lifeless, with 18v the 85 sounds lifeless and the 60a sounds great. I would definitely say that the 18v mod added highs and rounded the lows.
 
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I had a singlecoil/humbucker guitar with EMG's that I tried the 18v mod with. The single coil in the neck sounded better, but the 85 in the bridge ended up sounding crappy, just like you described. I'm wondering why you don't try an 81 in the neck. The 81/85 combo seems to be a pretty standard one (along with the 85/81 combo).

-Austin
 
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I adore the 60A in the neck and bridge position. Best EMG by far IMO but, that is just me. I like it becasue it does not sound as much like an active but, it still has tons of output and clarity like an active. Kind of a best of both worlds kind of thing.
 
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Wire each pickup to its own batteries - 9v for the 85, 18v for the 60a (3 batteries total).

There should be a switch mod you can do that selects between 18v and 9v. If so, set the switch to go 18v when using the 60a and 9v when using the 85, that way you only have 2 batteries.
 
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Put them back in 9v. There are benefits to both. 18v is closer to the actual guitar sound, and I find myself playing looser, more jam-style, "lay it back." I play it like I play my other guitars. 9v sounds more like a "radio" guitar sound, the 85 sounds a heck of a lot better for metal (a near perfect sound IMO), I play more precisely and riff-oriented, more coloration from the pickup, less of the guitar, but in a good way. Play the pickups in 9v, play the guitar in 18v, both are good and both have their shortcomings. I'd like a switch or something that would let me choose between the two modes, as I like both pickups in both modes. Though, I think I like the 60a better in 18v and the 85 in 9v. Luckily its an easy mod to swap... two wires.
 
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First impressions with the 18v mod... I don't think I'll keep it. The 85 is not nearly as crushing now... the compression of 9v is what makes it so fun to play. Now I have to beat the heck out of the strings to get the same chunk that I had before. The 60a sounds better, more clear, crisp. But I didn't buy EMGs for them to sound and feel like passives - I bought them for the active tone and feel!

Both the 60a and 85 have a lot more grit in the upper frequencies under high gain as well - not cool. It's funny, one man's organic is another man's sterile, one man's hi-fi is another man's mojo... so far, with 9v the 85 sounds great and the 60a sounds lifeless, with 18v the 85 sounds lifeless and the 60a sounds great. I would definitely say that the 18v mod added highs and rounded the lows.

What about the X series? Wouldn't using a EMG 60AX help?
 
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Apologies for hijacking but would anybody like to describe any differences they have experienced between the EMG-60 and -60A. More specifically, has anybody A/B compared them in the bridge/treble position?
 
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I second funkfingers question and would like to know more about the differences.

Back to the OP, I am in total agreement with you on the 85 in the bridge. I bought my first guitar with EMG's this past spring (Godin Redline 3) and it came with 85 in the neck and 81 in the bridge. After a couple days of playing with the guitar, I could not get a good tone with the 81 that was usable with the 85. I swapped the pickups positions just to try it and now the 85 will not leave the bridge. This pickup is perfect for what I am looking for in the bridge. I like the 81 in the neck more than I liked the 85, but I am not sold 100%. I would like to experiment with the 60/60A a little.
 
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I like the 60 over the 60A

The A has a honky midrange, the 60 is brighter, but also sounds smoother to my ears. The 85 is horribly muddy in the neck, and I've never tried the 81 in that position.
The 60 is really the only EMG neck pup I like...
 
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Wire each pickup to its own batteries - 9v for the 85, 18v for the 60a (3 batteries total).

Seriously? Why not use two batteries in series, use the full 18v for the 60a, and tap the center-point (9v) for the 85?
 
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Hi all! Wanted to bump this thread because I am buying a used Fender Jim Root telecaster which comes stock with an EMG 81 and EMG 60. I was thinking I would go with passives like a Duncan JB and Jazz with the Duncan Triple Shot, or maybe Rio Grande pickups but I may give the EMGs a shot since I think the 60 is cool in the neck. What about an EMG 85 or 89 in the bridge?
 
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Both are really nice, I had an 85 in the bridge of an SG for a long time and had an 89 in a Strat. In the tele I wouldn't bother with the 89 because really it's just a splittable 85 and splitting the bridge pickup won't really give you any amazing extra tones.
 
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Both are really nice, I had an 85 in the bridge of an SG for a long time and had an 89 in a Strat. In the tele I wouldn't bother with the 89 because really it's just a splittable 85 and splitting the bridge pickup won't really give you any amazing extra tones.

Why not? I would think splitting the bridge would give a nice single coil tone when combined with the neck. Otherwise, I am removing the EMGs and installing a JB/Jazz and Triple Shot!
 
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