Epi Lp
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Epi Lp
We all know players that have to have a big name brand on the headstock. They'd die of embarassment to be seen in public with a mid-priced import. Thinking about it, the guys I know that are like this also don't know anything about working on their guitars. And just about every guitar can benefit from some tweaking to fit our personal tastes (manufacturers put a certain PU in a guitar model, and never check that it matches well with the wood's tonality. If they did, every high-end guitar model would come with a variety of PU's, carefully selected to fit individual guitars. They combine high-quality components that may or may not blend together well).
Personally, I like taking an Epi that I bought used and put a set of used Duncans in, for a total outlay of around $300, and having the best-sounding guitar at a gig or a jam. It appeals to my perverted sense of humor. The guy with the $2,000 guitar probably thinks he has to rush out and buy an even more expensive one.
We all know players that have to have a big name brand on the headstock. They'd die of embarassment to be seen in public with a mid-priced import. Thinking about it, the guys I know that are like this also don't know anything about working on their guitars. And just about every guitar can benefit from some tweaking to fit our personal tastes (manufacturers put a certain PU in a guitar model, and never check that it matches well with the wood's tonality. If they did, every high-end guitar model would come with a variety of PU's, carefully selected to fit individual guitars. They combine high-quality components that may or may not blend together well).
Personally, I like taking an Epi that I bought used and put a set of used Duncans in, for a total outlay of around $300, and having the best-sounding guitar at a gig or a jam. It appeals to my perverted sense of humor. The guy with the $2,000 guitar probably thinks he has to rush out and buy an even more expensive one.
phil_104
Cheesesteakologist
Re: Epi Lp
Lol, perverted sense of humor eh. What you described is why when I get my fancy gibson, after about six months of playing it, I will replace the pups with something that fits the guitar better.
But on the flipside, like you are saying, it will have cost a pretty penny.
Lol, perverted sense of humor eh. What you described is why when I get my fancy gibson, after about six months of playing it, I will replace the pups with something that fits the guitar better.
But on the flipside, like you are saying, it will have cost a pretty penny.
Robbyk
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Re: Epi Lp
every instrument I get usually ends up getting different pick ups eventually in them. So to me spending 600 on a les and putting in another 300 in pickups is worth it to me. I really see little sense in spending top dollar for something when I can make this my own extension. Besides as someone said, why pay top bucks for a guitar and run the risk of it getting trashed at a gig? I played so many guitars in the last few months before I made this decision.
I had a 70 SG and was afraid to play it out. I don't wish to repeat this.
Bottom line is , when it feels good.........
every instrument I get usually ends up getting different pick ups eventually in them. So to me spending 600 on a les and putting in another 300 in pickups is worth it to me. I really see little sense in spending top dollar for something when I can make this my own extension. Besides as someone said, why pay top bucks for a guitar and run the risk of it getting trashed at a gig? I played so many guitars in the last few months before I made this decision.
I had a 70 SG and was afraid to play it out. I don't wish to repeat this.
Bottom line is , when it feels good.........
phil_104
Cheesesteakologist
Re: Epi Lp
Totally, when it feels good, it just does. It all depends on you. Me, I don't mind playing a top dollar guitar in a bar, that's why I bought the guitar, but I know most people arent like that. But dude, no matter what, you have a really cool guitar.
Totally, when it feels good, it just does. It all depends on you. Me, I don't mind playing a top dollar guitar in a bar, that's why I bought the guitar, but I know most people arent like that. But dude, no matter what, you have a really cool guitar.
guitarded
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I was gigging regularly up to the point where my last cover project busted up. I relied on my EPI's heavily and they never let me down.
I also own three American Fenders that are the real McCoy. I just can't see plopping down 2K + for a guitar that 8 out 10 people couldn't tell from the 400 dollar one in looks and sound.
I was gigging regularly up to the point where my last cover project busted up. I relied on my EPI's heavily and they never let me down.
I also own three American Fenders that are the real McCoy. I just can't see plopping down 2K + for a guitar that 8 out 10 people couldn't tell from the 400 dollar one in looks and sound.
Re: Epi Lp
First, Id just like to interject that: Yes, there are good and bad coming from most makers.. Its best to try as many as possible. HOWEVER.. I think there is little to no excuse for having a crummy product with a $1000-3000 price tag.
I try not to fuel the gibson bashing, and Phl 104, Im not picking at you, I just thought your post said it well.. I just feel that because of the legendary name and the HUGE price tags, Gibson should nearly ALL be a cut above.. However, most I play locally are very uninspiring and disappointing. It makes me sad. Granted, I dont play historics (cant afford to like one of those), but when I play a $2500 standard, I should say "wow"!
I have a Gibby explorer thats amazing and a Studio that is a very good axe, but I have epi Lps that are very inspiring too! And at a price I can think, Dang I only paid that for this great guitar.... Instead of feeling raped.
I liked and appreciated your last line too. I think we should feel this way.. If it sounds good, it is good and we should have the courage to go with what we feel..
Congrats on your new axe RobbyK!! I hope you dont lose that honeymoon feeling and hope your wife doesnt get jealous!
First, Id just like to interject that: Yes, there are good and bad coming from most makers.. Its best to try as many as possible. HOWEVER.. I think there is little to no excuse for having a crummy product with a $1000-3000 price tag.
I try not to fuel the gibson bashing, and Phl 104, Im not picking at you, I just thought your post said it well.. I just feel that because of the legendary name and the HUGE price tags, Gibson should nearly ALL be a cut above.. However, most I play locally are very uninspiring and disappointing. It makes me sad. Granted, I dont play historics (cant afford to like one of those), but when I play a $2500 standard, I should say "wow"!
I have a Gibby explorer thats amazing and a Studio that is a very good axe, but I have epi Lps that are very inspiring too! And at a price I can think, Dang I only paid that for this great guitar.... Instead of feeling raped.
I liked and appreciated your last line too. I think we should feel this way.. If it sounds good, it is good and we should have the courage to go with what we feel..
Congrats on your new axe RobbyK!! I hope you dont lose that honeymoon feeling and hope your wife doesnt get jealous!
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Epi Lp
Before you take a $2,000 or $3,000 guitar or two to your next local gig (plus an expensive amp), think about this. How many patrons in a bar are sober at midnight? How many people know the difference between a Gibson & a Fender? And in a cramped room with lousy acoustics, with a poor mix of instruments and PA, probably with some distortion in everything, do you think anyone can tell the difference between an Epi LP Std with upgraded PU's & a Gibson LP? If it makes you feel better, great, but don't think that anyone else there notices. To me these gigs cry out "mid-priced import!"
Before you take a $2,000 or $3,000 guitar or two to your next local gig (plus an expensive amp), think about this. How many patrons in a bar are sober at midnight? How many people know the difference between a Gibson & a Fender? And in a cramped room with lousy acoustics, with a poor mix of instruments and PA, probably with some distortion in everything, do you think anyone can tell the difference between an Epi LP Std with upgraded PU's & a Gibson LP? If it makes you feel better, great, but don't think that anyone else there notices. To me these gigs cry out "mid-priced import!"
Robbyk
New member
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Blueman, you are always correct. I have become attached to you, ( IN a manly way of course). :friday:You and I think so much alike, are you missing and older twin? As for the other guy, yep, I play somehting and it FEELS right, I purchase it. I don't worry about how much or if it is a off brand. Hell I once owned a sears silvertone cause it felt good in my hands.I actually own a squire that I was against owning until I played it and it sang to me. I could purchase what ever I want( trust me, between my company and my music), I choose to buy what I like instead of what others will look at and feel inpressed. I love Gibson with all my heart, I played them in the 70's during my height, but ... sometimes we have to swallow our pride and do what we feel, instead of worry about how someone else will take it. Bottom line, feel and as someone said honey moon( love) is all that really mattters. I play what I feel not what someone else tells me to play. The same should be pushed to my instrument.
Oh and by the way, it was my wife who bought this for me.
Blueman, you are always correct. I have become attached to you, ( IN a manly way of course). :friday:You and I think so much alike, are you missing and older twin? As for the other guy, yep, I play somehting and it FEELS right, I purchase it. I don't worry about how much or if it is a off brand. Hell I once owned a sears silvertone cause it felt good in my hands.I actually own a squire that I was against owning until I played it and it sang to me. I could purchase what ever I want( trust me, between my company and my music), I choose to buy what I like instead of what others will look at and feel inpressed. I love Gibson with all my heart, I played them in the 70's during my height, but ... sometimes we have to swallow our pride and do what we feel, instead of worry about how someone else will take it. Bottom line, feel and as someone said honey moon( love) is all that really mattters. I play what I feel not what someone else tells me to play. The same should be pushed to my instrument.
Oh and by the way, it was my wife who bought this for me.
Robbyk
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Of course BRO! Sorry sometimes names escape me. I guess it is the mind always wandering. I sometimes think of 10 things at one time. Sorry.
Am I the other guy?
Of course BRO! Sorry sometimes names escape me. I guess it is the mind always wandering. I sometimes think of 10 things at one time. Sorry.
phil_104
Cheesesteakologist
Re: Epi Lp
Nice!
Seriously though, I know I came in a little strong in this thread, but I do believe you have a beautifull instrument. Those black beauties are epic man, epic. I wish you the best with the guitar, and may it be by your side for a thousand gigs! Like I said, I came on strong, but I mean no harm by it. Hopefully some day you wont concider me a d-bag, maybe. Lol.
Anyways, do you plan on keeping the pickups stock, or are you dropping something special in there?
Nice!
Seriously though, I know I came in a little strong in this thread, but I do believe you have a beautifull instrument. Those black beauties are epic man, epic. I wish you the best with the guitar, and may it be by your side for a thousand gigs! Like I said, I came on strong, but I mean no harm by it. Hopefully some day you wont concider me a d-bag, maybe. Lol.
Anyways, do you plan on keeping the pickups stock, or are you dropping something special in there?
Robbyk
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No problem , as long as you say what you feel. As for Pickups, I am, contemplating what to put in there. I will probably replace them within a year, but need to figure out what with.
Let me tell you this, I feel this instrument has made me a better player, for some reason. I sat down tonite and wrote some blues in A, and it felt so right. I speak my mind sometimes and piss off people, so speak your mind as much as you like. Its all good to me. From an 18 year old to a 51 year old who has hung with many popular folks, trust me, I have learned to listen to everyone. It is what made me who I am. Hopefully it will aid you to become better to.
No problem , as long as you say what you feel. As for Pickups, I am, contemplating what to put in there. I will probably replace them within a year, but need to figure out what with.
Let me tell you this, I feel this instrument has made me a better player, for some reason. I sat down tonite and wrote some blues in A, and it felt so right. I speak my mind sometimes and piss off people, so speak your mind as much as you like. Its all good to me. From an 18 year old to a 51 year old who has hung with many popular folks, trust me, I have learned to listen to everyone. It is what made me who I am. Hopefully it will aid you to become better to.
phil_104
Cheesesteakologist
Re: Epi Lp
Thanks for the advice man! I actually think you are totally right on the matter, and I hope to grow from listening. Heck, I learned from this thread.
Anyways, I know how you feel about an instrument making you better. It's almost like an inspiration that comes strait from the guitar, and opens up another dimension of music. Same thing happens when I play one of my godins when I got composer's block for blues.
Final question : does it have a name yet?
ps. I'm glad you can both agree you have an amazing guitar. Better karma for both of us.
Thanks for the advice man! I actually think you are totally right on the matter, and I hope to grow from listening. Heck, I learned from this thread.
Anyways, I know how you feel about an instrument making you better. It's almost like an inspiration that comes strait from the guitar, and opens up another dimension of music. Same thing happens when I play one of my godins when I got composer's block for blues.
Final question : does it have a name yet?
ps. I'm glad you can both agree you have an amazing guitar. Better karma for both of us.
GoldenVulture
Braindeadologist
Re: Epi Lp
.........I hacked the pickups.The coils are the original Epis.They had Alinco magnets in them[no idea what type]They were replaced with pole magnets.
I rewired the second Vol pot to be a balance/blend control[white knob;actually a fender knob]
:kabong:
I've had this for about five years.When i got it ,it went straight to the guitar doctors and was re-fretted with wider flatter frets.The nut was replaced with an ivory one that was custom fitted to the guitar.It plays best of my guitars and other people think it feels great.
.........I hacked the pickups.The coils are the original Epis.They had Alinco magnets in them[no idea what type]They were replaced with pole magnets.
I rewired the second Vol pot to be a balance/blend control[white knob;actually a fender knob]
:kabong:
Robbyk
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Re: Epi Lp
Ah A blues player as well. I remember sitting at the door steps in the New York projects learning blues from the old guys who was getting drunk as usual. I was 7 years old at the time. That experience gave me a love for Blues.
As for a name, Not yet. She will be named as soon as she sings it in my ears. I do have a name I could use but The wife would be soo pissed. It is a name from my old girlfreind in New york I would still have been wirth had she not died. But for some reason Dawn just doesnt sound right. :headbang:
Man I love these smileys
Ah A blues player as well. I remember sitting at the door steps in the New York projects learning blues from the old guys who was getting drunk as usual. I was 7 years old at the time. That experience gave me a love for Blues.
As for a name, Not yet. She will be named as soon as she sings it in my ears. I do have a name I could use but The wife would be soo pissed. It is a name from my old girlfreind in New york I would still have been wirth had she not died. But for some reason Dawn just doesnt sound right. :headbang:
Man I love these smileys