Epiphone Casino with Humbuckers ?

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Has anyone ever converted their beloved Casino (full hollow) from dog ear style P90's to gull size Humbuckers ?

If so, what pick ups did you pit in there ?
How does a full hollow thin line sound with Humbuckers ?
(...compared to say, an ES-335 with center block)

Can anyone help ?
 
Fully hollow guitars sound amazing with full humbuckers. They have to be the *right* ones, though. I'd go for Antiquities or Seth Lovers, myself. As far as the surgery to do that...hmmm, I might just order these humbuckers in a dog ear enclosure!
 
FWIW, the very slight "surgery" that has to be performed (if any – depends on how big Epi makes the pickup cutouts on their Casinos) is able to be covered when re-installing dogear covers.

The way you want to do it, IMO, is to get a set of black plastic dogear covers, and do the cutouts and holes to modify them into humbucking pickup rings.

Humbuckers in a fully hollow thinline sound incredible. See the later Guild Starfires (from the late pre-Fender era) for an example. It's the guitar model that made me lust after a fully hollow thinline. Never ended up getting that one...but got a few other types later on.
 
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Off the top of my head, I know Rio Grande and Curtis Novak both build humbuckers into dogear covers.

And TV Jones sells a pickup surround that will let you install filter'trons in a dogear hole.

If it were me, those would be the routes I'd go.
 
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Fully hollow guitars sound amazing with full humbuckers.
They have to be the *right* ones, though. I'd go for Antiquities or Seth Lovers, myself.
As far as the surgery to do that...hmmm, I might just order these humbuckers in a dog ear enclosure!

Great info - thanks Mincer.
I did not know a full size 'bucker will fit into a dog ear spacing.
 
FWIW, the very slight "surgery" that has to be performed (if any – depends on how big Epi makes the pickup cutouts on their Casinos) is able to be covered when re-installing dogear covers.

The way you want to do it, IMO, is to get a set of black plastic dogear covers, and do the cutouts and holes to modify them into humbucking pickup rings.

Humbuckers in a fully hollow thinline sound incredible. See the later Guild Starfires (from the late pre-Fender era) for an example. It's the guitar model that made me lust after a fully hollow thinline. Never ended up getting that one...but got a few other types later on.

Thank you very much ItsaBass ;)
 
Off the top of my head, I know Rio Grande and Curtis Novak both build humbuckers into dogear covers.

And TV Jones sells a pickup surround that will let you install filter'trons in a dogear hole.

If it were me, those would be the routes I'd go.

AHHHhh . . . thanks . . . deff gonna look into those !
 
I wasn't aware the Casino was a full hollow body rather than a semi-hollow body? I just assumed it was a 335 copy. They have Dogear P90 to other style pickup adapters. I just bought one to use with a Filtertron style pickup I will be putting in a ES-125 copy.
 
Sorry for taking so much room ..... I don't often get a chance to confess to the world that I destroyed a classic guitar.

Here is my old Epiphone.

It needs to be cleaned. I only pull it out a couple of times a month to tune and play it for awhile

Bought it about mid 1972 when another customer brought it into the music store and told the owner that he had to get a Strat for his country band and this had to go. Paid just under $300 [ been so long ago ... I don't remember. ] At the time I was learning by Jazz chords and a few runs and decided to turn this into a "jazz" guitar.
The store owner pulled out a Gibson parts list and we looked at the list ...... the parts list had several sets of jazz and full bodied pickups and each pick up set went for a couple of different guitars. We ordered the the humbucker set for the ES-175. The holes had to be enlarged to fit the humbuckers. As for the pick up cover screw hole in the body, the store owner just screwed small screws into the hole.

And I can't go back ..... Sold the original P-90's and covers to a friend of the music store's owner. Also, the store owner previously installed Grovers on the guitar and I remember him telling me that he had to slightly ream out the holes so the Grovers would fit snugly with out cracking the head stock over time.

It has a thin taper neck with narrower finger board, however, the length is traditional length. This neck is unlike any recent or current Epiphone neck I have tried and much more comfortable. The newer and current Epiphone ES guitars are a grey shadow of this guitar [ I've never tried any of the top line or elite Casios ]

How does it sound: This guitar really isn't in the ES-335 family as it is a hollow body. It sounds incredible - the guitar is is very airy both acoustic and thorough the amp. The pickups are almost 50 years old and sound like a 57's with a very smooth and glassy top end. The bass has a touch of give when playing and they feel wonderful.

At times, I hate myself for being young and hard headed and destroying a now classic guitar. At other times, I pick this up and play awhile and have to admit it is one incredible playing and sounding guitar.

I realize this is some one else's thread and I don't want to be rude. And the question, either now or later, ........ I'm interested in knowing what I really have. What kind of pickups did Gibson put in the ES-175 in the early 70's?
 

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I wasn't aware the Casino was a full hollow body
rather than a semi-hollow body? I just assumed it was a 335 copy.
They have Dogear P90 to other style pickup adapters.
I just bought one to use with a Filtertron style pickup I will be putting in an ES-125 copy.

Yes . . .the only other FULL hollow thin line body guitar that i know about is the under appreciated Ibanez AFS series.
Saying that, i still prefer the feel of the Casino in my hands.

https://www.ibanez.com/asia/products/model/afs/

Please keep me up dated on your own project ;)
 
Sorry for taking so much room ..... I don't often get a chance to confess to the world that I destroyed a classic guitar.

Here is my old Epiphone.

It needs to be cleaned. I only pull it out a couple of times a month to tune and play it for awhile

Bought it about mid 1972 when another customer brought it into the music store and told the owner that he had to get a Strat for his country band and this had to go. Paid just under $300 [ been so long ago ... I don't remember. ] At the time I was learning by Jazz chords and a few runs and decided to turn this into a "jazz" guitar.
The store owner pulled out a Gibson parts list and we looked at the list ...... the parts list had several sets of jazz and full bodied pickups and each pick up set went for a couple of different guitars. We ordered the the humbucker set for the ES-175. The holes had to be enlarged to fit the humbuckers. As for the pick up cover screw hole in the body, the store owner just screwed small screws into the hole.

And I can't go back ..... Sold the original P-90's and covers to a friend of the music store's owner. Also, the store owner previously installed Grovers on the guitar and I remember him telling me that he had to slightly ream out the holes so the Grovers would fit snugly with out cracking the head stock over time.

It has a thin taper neck with narrower finger board, however, the length is traditional length. This neck is unlike any recent or current Epiphone neck I have tried and much more comfortable. The newer and current Epiphone ES guitars are a grey shadow of this guitar [ I've never tried any of the top line or elite Casios ]

How does it sound: This guitar really isn't in the ES-335 family as it is a hollow body. It sounds incredible - the guitar is is very airy both acoustic and thorough the amp. The pickups are almost 50 years old and sound like a 57's with a very smooth and glassy top end. The bass has a touch of give when playing and they feel wonderful.

At times, I hate myself for being young and hard headed and destroying a now classic guitar. At other times, I pick this up and play awhile and have to admit it is one incredible playing and sounding guitar.

I realize this is some one else's thread and I don't want to be rude. And the question, either now or later, ........ I'm interested in knowing what I really have. What kind of pickups did Gibson put in the ES-175 in the early 70's?

GREAT POST . . . just what i needed to hear . . . thank you very much mate.

I might pair a set of Ants with a Casino, as i already have a Seth Lover set, in a very diff guitar.
 
Yes . . .the only other FULL hollow thin line body guitar that i know about is the under appreciated Ibanez AFS series.
Saying that, i still prefer the feel of the Casino in my hands.

https://www.ibanez.com/asia/products/model/afs/

Please keep me up dated on your own project ;)

Yeah, the Casino is a full hollow, arched both back and top! (if I remember correctly).

I bought my Wildkat unseen, and thought it was the same deal. So I was a bit... bummed when I first held it in my arms, hehe ;). The wildkat has a flat back, but is still hollow- with the exception of a square "tone block" under the bridge. :).

First time I played a Casino, I fell really in love with the sound. The Wildkat is "close"- it sounds more "hollow" than a ES-335, but more "solid" than a Casino.

(guess this information isn't very meaningful, I just wanted to write) ;)

rock on \m/
 
I have owned a couple thin full hollow guitars that I put humbuckers into. I really liked it but I was playing in punk bands at the time so I may not be the best guide.
 
hahahahaha . . . :lmao:

I wasn't joking. One thinline hollowbody I put an unknown Gibson humbucker into. That was a Sex Pistols sort of punk rock band. Great sound! Had a nice twang to it..
The other I installed a JB. That was a hardcore band ala early Black Flag/Circle Jerks.
In between those I played an ES-335 in a sort of Social Distortion/Fu Fighters type band.

I like punk, I like humbuckers, and I like thinline hollow and semi-hollow guitars. But my desired tone probably doesn't match the typical hollowbody player...
 
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