Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

Re: Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

Dot Deluxes have flame tops and gold hardware, which puts them closer to a Sheraton feature-wise. A few DD's have small block inlays.

PAF's are always good in a 335. If you want more horsepower in the bridge, a C8/'59N is excellent.

I am not a fan of gold hardware but I found a Dot Deluxe locally for $250 with case. I also like the plain natural DOT. I bought one last year for $200 and was mint. I should have kept it. :(

Are the Deluxe models made better?

Wish I could play some of the ones on Ebay before making a move.

The last Dot on there sold for almost $400 which seems high!
 
Re: Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

I don't want to compromise, I want the sound, tone and look of the larger body, but I do prefer a slightly reduced body size and much prefer the feel of a Gibson or Epiphone with binding so I think I will go for the ES-339-PRO.
http://www.epiphone.com/Products/Archtop/ES-339-PRO.aspx

Maybe someon can explain this to me! I see used Epi ES-330 Pros selling on ebay for $499! Yet, all online stores and our local Guitar Center sells the same ES-339 Pro for $399!!!! HUH????
 
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My guitar tech says to get the PRS because he said if I plan to change the pickups in the Dot, it is a nightmare and big expensive job.
I would rather have the Epi though.
 
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My guitar tech says to get the PRS because he said if I plan to change the pickups in the Dot, it is a nightmare and big expensive job.
I would rather have the Epi though.

It's not that bad of a job. I did it a couple of times with no experience. The first time, I tied strings to each pot so that I could pull them back through after the soldering.

The second time I just went without the strings and it only took marginally longer.
 
Re: Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

Quick question for yez.

Is the object of the exercise to find a guitar that IS semi-hollow or one that SOUNDS semi-hollow?

I have been blown away by the sounds of the Fender La Cabronita Telecaster. It does bright, wiry twang. It does deep, full Jazz. It does Duane Eddy tones. It even does a few Buffalo Springfield-era Neil Young-isms. The only thing missing is a Bigsby!
 
Re: Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

the dot is without a doubt the most "hollow" of the two: looks, sound and feel.

have you seen the 339? I think that's the model number. it looks like a 335 but it's smaller.
 
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My guitar tech says to get the PRS because he said if I plan to change the pickups in the Dot, it is a nightmare and big expensive job.

You need a new guitar tech. I've rewired several dozen F hole guitars. My first rewiring ever was on a 335, putting in two push-pulls on a Hamer Echotone. It takes about 5 minutes to get all 4 pots back into a 335 or hollowbody (and I have no handyman, electrical, or soldering skills). I've posted a dozen times here over the years how to do it. If your tech hasn't figured that out, he's not that sharp.
 
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I just put a Dot on layaway at GC where I work, it was used and I fell in love with it. I don't have a great opinion of epi's. The only really bad thing I can say about them is that they're really inconsistent. I just happened to get a good one, but I have played and seen plenty of duds. The deluxe dots aren't any nicer. They just have cheap looking gold hardware and a cheap looking flame top. The plain top vintage sunburst I got looks great with the chrome hardware.

I'd say if you can find a Dot with a decent neck that plays, snatch it up and maybe swap out the pups for antiquities or Gibby 57 classics.

The SE's are pretty good. I would say they're more consistent in quality, but I'd say they're the same quality as a good dot.
 
Re: Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

Please check into those Washburns I mentioned they are much better guitars than the Epiphones (the dots are very inconsistent and imho aren't a very good value). I do like the SE SH model but I don't think it's going to be the same type of tone.

The Washburns are also very reasonably priced.
 
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I have both and the PRS SE is about 5x the guitar my Dot is.

Quality wise.
 
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Please check into those Washburns I mentioned they are much better guitars than the Epiphones (the dots are very inconsistent and imho aren't a very good value). I do like the SE SH model but I don't think it's going to be the same type of tone.

The Washburns are also very reasonably priced.
I have one of the plain top (HB27) Washburns, and their stock pickups are surprisingly good.
 
Re: Epiphone DOT vs PRS SE Semi Hollow?

current production epiphones leave a lot to be desired imho and the PRS SE line outperform some of the best guitars out there. My main axe is a PRS Santana SE I've had it about 10 years. Currently using Lollar single coil for humbucker pickups in it along with a polished (unbleached) bone nut.

Honestly I don't like the unplugged tone or a lot of the playability of the current Epiphones, not saying they are awful guitars I just expect a lot more from them for their pricetag. Especially considering what I can get in a similar price range DiPinto, PRS SE, Italia, Washburn, etc.
 
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I don't like the unplugged tone or a lot of the playability of the current Epiphones, not saying they are awful guitars I just expect a lot more from them for their pricetag. Especially considering what I can get in a similar price range DiPinto, PRS SE, Italia, Washburn, etc.

PRS have their own thing going on, and some guys love it, some don't, regardless of how much a PRS costs. I like Epi's, especially the recent-manufacture MIC and MIK. Most of the newest models have push-pulls for coil cut and A2 magnet PU's. I've found the quality over the last 10 years to be consistent and competitive. They offer a lot of variety in solid, semi, and full hollows, much more than PRS or Washburn.

With upgraded PU's they can sound very good, like my natural Dot with a thick mahogany neck that I put a pair of Seth's in.
 
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I have a PRS SE semi and put an A2P/CC combo into and like it quite a bit. Probably is, my son likes it quite a bit as well and has been borrowing it a bit as of late. :(

And it's green. :)
 
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PRS have their own thing going on, and some guys love it, some don't, regardless of how much a PRS costs. I like Epi's, especially the recent-manufacture MIC and MIK. Most of the newest models have push-pulls for coil cut and A2 magnet PU's. I've found the quality over the last 10 years to be consistent and competitive. They offer a lot of variety in solid, semi, and full hollows, much more than PRS or Washburn.

With upgraded PU's they can sound very good, like my natural Dot with a thick mahogany neck that I put a pair of Seth's in.

I have to respectfully disagree since I used to manage a major guitar retailer that was an authorized gibson/epiphone dealer. I have yet to find a Dot or Sheraton that really has the mojo of other semi-hollows.

Every Epiphone we got in SG, LP, 335/sheraton, etc required a lot of setup work. Don't even get me started on how bad the ES-339 models have been. I have yet to play one of those (and I've played 20 different ones) that I liked enough to consider buying. At that point who cares about wiring or pickups (I can easily swap pickups or do wiring myself).

If you actually played multiple epiphones (like dozens upon dozens) and compared them to dozens of washburns you'd understand. The Washburn is not only a better setup instrument out of the box but the pieces of wood (at least on those that I've had experience with) were far superior to any Epiphone as were the stock electronics/pickups. I'd like you to find me an Epiphone that will truly compete with the HB35 or HB36. Play them side by side today and compare the prices. Washburn is clearly better bang for the buck. I'm sorry but if a guitar doesn't sound right and feel right unplugged it's not going to matter what else it's got going on. I find that Sheratons and Dots really like the life and 3D quality I search for in a semi hollow (now there are exceptions to that statement, but they are a rarity).

As to your PRS remark, I stated that already in this thread, the PRS SE's are very nice but PRS has their own vibe/character. Again across the board PRS is much higher quality in every regard than a current production Epiphone. We are talking about comparing hundreds of Epiphones to a large amount of PRS, not the same numbers because obviously Gibson/Fender guitars are the biggest sellers.

Now please bear in mind that I own four Epiphone acoustic guitars (so I don't hate the brand two masterbilts, an inspired by 64 texan, and a roy orbisson bard 12 string). But this is simply an issue of people paying more for a brand name than actual quality 9 out of 10 times.

Italia, Hagstrom, Eastwood, Phantom, DiPinto, G&L Tribute, PRS SE, Washburn, ESP Ltd, Tradition, etc offer superior instruments to the Fender/Squier and Gibson/Epiphone brands.

A quality Epiphone electric is far and few between in comparison to how consistently good these less popular brands are. In all honesty of all those brands I listed not one of them had a bad/lemon guitar. I play horrible gibson/fender guitars all the time.
 
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That's a good post (above) but I differ in some of the details. I have never played a 'dog' Gibson and I have had probably a hundred in my hands. I have owned 9 or 10 and still have 5. As for Fender...same with USA Fender...I have not played a dog USA Fender. I did have an alder strat that I wasn't wowed by but it was smooth and played great - it may have been my prior strat which was ash which kept me from being wowed by the alder one. Now, the Classic Vibe series? I have picked up 2 recently in 2 different stores and the necks both had back bow.

As to the PRS SE semis, they definitely have their own thing going on. The necks are amazing and the overall quality of the build is top notch - even if they aren't 'for you' the quality is undeniable.
 
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I haven't played 10 or 20 of any one guitar, but I can tell you that I'm very happy with my Epi Sheraton. Great workmanship, easy action... I updated wiring and pickups, but the guitar hasn't even needed a truss-rod adjustment yet. Very stable guitar.
 
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