Epiphone Olympic 1965 pick-up help

Scottab63

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I have a 1965 Epiphone Olympic. It does not have the original pickup, but I recently had a new pick guard made to fit the original. I asked
Gibson Guitar and they said the original Pick up for my guitar was a Melody Maker single coil. They did not have this pick up. They said to contact Seymour Duncan as they could probably help me. Help?!!
Scott
 
Re: Epiphone Olympic 1965 pick-up help

Welcome to the forum.

The SD Custom Shop can build you an accurate replica of the stock vintage pickup OR your could order something with the specs beefed up a little OR you could compare the dimensions of the Melody Maker single coil to those of other pickups. Something ought to fit under the stock cover.

EDIT - On a mostly mahogany guitar such as yours, I would go for the MM/P90 option, maybe 5-10% overwound.
 
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Very old single double stacked Seymour Duncan. Don't know what model. It's at least from the late 70's, but it's not the original and I had a new pick guard made with the cut out for the original pick up routed out
 
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I am not an expert so you will have to take it way down. When you say beefed up????
And where can I get a Melody Maker? I called Gibson and they can't help.
Also you mentioned 5-10% overwound??? I'm sure you mean more copper wire around the P/U right? What would this do.
Thank you for your response.
 
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What is the sound difference between the Single Coil and the single coil Humbucker?
Do you know if the original was a single or stacked?
 
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An overwound pickup would go some way to compensating for the slim body of the Epiphone.
 
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Could you possible give me the center screw holes dimensions side to side, and the width and and length of the upper part of the pick up that goes through the pick guard cut out?
My dimensions are 3 1/4 screw hole to screw hole. 2 7/8 length, and 1/2 width.
Thanks,
Scott
 
Re: Epiphone Olympic 1965 pick-up help

I am not an expert so you will have to take it way down. When you say beefed up????
And where can I get a Melody Maker? I called Gibson and they can't help.
Also you mentioned 5-10% overwound??? I'm sure you mean more copper wire around the P/U right? What would this do.
Thank you for your response.

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What is the sound difference between the Single Coil and the single coil Humbucker?
Do you know if the original was a single or stacked?

Hi Scott,

The original Melody Maker pickup was a single coil pickup. As a crude generalization, single coils are thinner sounding, have bright high end and thumpy bass to them and not a lot of mids, usually.

A humbucker is always double coil; one coil picks up the sound from the strings and a dummy coil cancels out the electronic hum. As another crude generalization, humbuckers are typically higher in power (louder) and have more midrange and less bass and treble compared to single coils. (But note, if you look at all the pickup variations created by Seymour Duncan, there are ways to impart any characteristic to just about any pickup. Too much to comment here.)

Seymour Duncan makes a drop-in replacement for Melody Maker pickups, and also makes variations of it, even allowing you to customize the pickup to suit your needs.

Seymour's single-coil replacement for original Melody Maker pickups (basically would restore your guitar to it's original state)
http://customshop.seymourduncan.com/melody-maker-single-coil/
http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/custom-shop/specialized-1/melody_maker_si/

Seymour's P-90 pickup inside a Melody Maker-sized cover (would make the guitar both brighter and beefier; also when ordering you can ask to have it overwound which would make it hotter/louder but might soften/darken the top-end/treble sound slightly)
http://customshop.seymourduncan.com/melody-maker-p90/

Seymour's Melody Maker-sized humbucker
http://customshop.seymourduncan.com/melody-maker-humbucker/

The web site description for all three says: "The single coil is a duplicate of the original wind and sound that hasn’t been heard since the originals. The P90 gives a robust and burly punch and the humbucker lets you dive into higher gain with more attack."

Hope that helps,
Kevin
 
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I am glad to see that Duncan is finally making some Melody Maker pickups, as in my opinion the original pickup in the mid-sixties MM I had was too thin-sounding.
In fact, many years ago I emailed Duncan about doing some Melody Maker replacement pickups that sounded better than the stock ones, and was told by whoever I talked to (don't remember his name), that there was "no market" for such a thing, as most Melody-Maker owners think the original pickups were great. I then asked him if those pickups were so great, why is it that so many old MM's for sale have had the pickup changed out to a humbucker or P90?. He had no answer for that. I guess they finally re-thought their position and are making some options for replacements.
I would add that I think the earlier wider-coil MM pickups are supposedly better-sounding than the later skinny ones, maybe that is what the guy was thinking about. In the end, I replaced the pickup with a Bill Lawrence single-blade p/u, which sounded much better than the original one. It fit the cutout in the pickguard, but the hole spacing was different, so I had to mount the pickup directly into the wood, with a spacer under it, and stuck the original adjustment screws back in the pickguard with silicone, so it looked stock. My brother now has that guitar. I think it's great that Duncan and other companies are now making replacement pickups to drop right into a Melody Maker, if I were to replace it these days I would go for the P90-sounding one that Duncan makes, as a P90 in a MM is a beautiful thing.

Al
 
Re: Epiphone Olympic 1965 pick-up help

If it were my call I would probably go with a melody maker pickup would to SSL5 specs.
 
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