jalguitarman
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Epiphone Pro Buckers. opinions please.
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Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
Re: Epiphone Pro Buckers. opinions please.
Not the best PAFs by any means, but they aren't bad for the price range. The bridge can be a bit ice picky, but so can any bridge PAF. I don't have experience with the neck, but if it's anything like the Gibson Burstbucker Pros, it might be boomy in some guitars.
Not the best PAFs by any means, but they aren't bad for the price range. The bridge can be a bit ice picky, but so can any bridge PAF. I don't have experience with the neck, but if it's anything like the Gibson Burstbucker Pros, it might be boomy in some guitars.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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Decent PAF's but not great. Much better than the current Alnico Classics and the previous Epi '57 Classics (affectionately known as 'mudbuckers'). If you get an Epi with Probuckers, you don't have to be in a hurry to swap them out, you may want keep them in.
Decent PAF's but not great. Much better than the current Alnico Classics and the previous Epi '57 Classics (affectionately known as 'mudbuckers'). If you get an Epi with Probuckers, you don't have to be in a hurry to swap them out, you may want keep them in.
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jalguitarman
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I just got an Epiphone Es Les Paul that has them.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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Try them a while & see what you think.
Try them a while & see what you think.
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Since you have some, play em a bit and then give US a review.... : )
As stated previously, they aren't Seymour Duncans, but they aren't horrible either..
Since you have some, play em a bit and then give US a review.... : )
As stated previously, they aren't Seymour Duncans, but they aren't horrible either..
jalguitarman
Junior Member
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They seem ok, but they aren't Bare Knuckles by a long shot! Lol
They seem ok, but they aren't Bare Knuckles by a long shot! Lol
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As Bloodrose has said.....you have the pickups in a guitar already.
Hence there is no need (or relevance) to anyone elses opinion. You can hear them played in the room, using your rig and your own guitar. You are also hearing them for your own style of music.
Someone else has a different natural tone, a different rig, different ears and tonal preferences and genre of preferred music.......then has to convey a 3D aural experience and try and put that into words.
Of course its different for someone who doesn't yet own said pickup - and needs say a comparison with something that is known
As Bloodrose has said.....you have the pickups in a guitar already.
Hence there is no need (or relevance) to anyone elses opinion. You can hear them played in the room, using your rig and your own guitar. You are also hearing them for your own style of music.
Someone else has a different natural tone, a different rig, different ears and tonal preferences and genre of preferred music.......then has to convey a 3D aural experience and try and put that into words.
Of course its different for someone who doesn't yet own said pickup - and needs say a comparison with something that is known
Discharged
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I, for one, beg to differ. Following LtKojak's advice, I made the slug, screw, keeper bar and magnets most to an "Alnico Classic Pro" set from an ES-339 and they sound and behaved like a '59 set with the same magnet change, which was an A3n/A2b.
For the record, the "Alnico Classic Pro" p'ups ARE Probuckers, and have the same TPL and turn count as some "boutique" p'ups I've dissected.
I've performed the same mod to a Probucker #2/#3 set, I didn't like it as much, but the "customer" did, so as long as he's happy, I'm happy too. Maybe they'll be better served with the A4n/UOA5b mod, but I haven't done one yet, so I can't comment.
/Peter
I, for one, beg to differ. Following LtKojak's advice, I made the slug, screw, keeper bar and magnets most to an "Alnico Classic Pro" set from an ES-339 and they sound and behaved like a '59 set with the same magnet change, which was an A3n/A2b.
For the record, the "Alnico Classic Pro" p'ups ARE Probuckers, and have the same TPL and turn count as some "boutique" p'ups I've dissected.
I've performed the same mod to a Probucker #2/#3 set, I didn't like it as much, but the "customer" did, so as long as he's happy, I'm happy too. Maybe they'll be better served with the A4n/UOA5b mod, but I haven't done one yet, so I can't comment.
/Peter
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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I've read Epi literature saying they are different in a few ways, Probuckers being their top-of-the-line. At least some Alnico Pros are wound hotter.
I've read Epi literature saying they are different in a few ways, Probuckers being their top-of-the-line. At least some Alnico Pros are wound hotter.
Discharged
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The Probuckers #2/#3 read as follows: PB#2 8.04K neck, PB#3 8.89K bridge. (Almost identical to my early 90s '57 Classic/'57 Classic Plus set)
/Peter
I've found this:
This excerpt is from 2015, and what it says is actually wrong, as the ones in my ES-339 used polished Alnico 2 magnets, and not roughcast, as stated in the literature it came with the guitar. Mine read 7.68K in the neck and 8.40K in the bridge.
Hotter than what? Sorry if I come across as dense, but I just don't get this. What are you referring to?
The Probuckers #2/#3 read as follows: PB#2 8.04K neck, PB#3 8.89K bridge. (Almost identical to my early 90s '57 Classic/'57 Classic Plus set)
/Peter
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blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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Hotter than Probuckers. Like some of the Alnico Classic Pro bridges. Actually, I've seen guitars with two of those, both like 15K+, neck and bridge. Maybe that was some production line mix up & they've gotten that sorted out by now.
Hotter than Probuckers. Like some of the Alnico Classic Pro bridges. Actually, I've seen guitars with two of those, both like 15K+, neck and bridge. Maybe that was some production line mix up & they've gotten that sorted out by now.
Mr. B
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Yeah guys! Stop discussing pickups on a Forum set up for people to discuss pickups !!
Yeah guys! Stop discussing pickups on a Forum set up for people to discuss pickups !!
Chistopher
malapterurus electricus tonewood instigator
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I thought this was a place for pickups to lounge around. Nobody told me about any sort of discussions.
I thought this was a place for pickups to lounge around. Nobody told me about any sort of discussions.
Aceman
I am your doctor of love!
Re: Epiphone Pro Buckers. opinions please.
I came here looking for chics...It is a PICKUP lounge :lmao:
Anyway, a few issues...
AlexR said it best (Bloodrose said it too, and others): Since you have them, the ONLY opinion that matters is YOURS. I do not know what you dig, so even if you told me what you thought, it would be hard to reference! Rick - I know what sounds and approaches he takes and what he plays.
Dishcharged/Kojack's advice: If you are into experimenting just to do it, sounds very cool and interesting. To be fair, they are "tech-ing" for the sake of tech, but that's cool. It's how we learn! Of course, who knows if that would sound good in YOUR guitar.
As for the global content - REALITY CHECK: we are talking about Epiphone Guitars and Epiphone pickups. They make some fine and dandy gear, especially at the price point. However, lets not lose our minds if a mag here or a slab of wood there is NOT what it said or should be. As I have always said - in a pinch they will grind up the table tops in the lunch room and make guitars if they run out of wood. God only knows what happens to pickups. Probably chop up refrigerator magnets if they needed to...
And all of that said - two final points:
Nothing beats spending some time with your gear dialing in what you want to hear (even if it isn't your sacred 6/4/7 - 6.4 Bass Mid Treble - Gain setting! And as always, people NEVER spend enough time setting heights, adjusting poles, etc...
All of that considered - if all you want is opinions out of pure curiosity, I think they are OK. For an all around guitar I wouldn't run around looking for anything to swap. Played a bunch in music stores and always thought they were pretty cool for whatever. As always, if it is Pantera or Joe Pass you seek....maybe not. Always looking for a 339 and if it had them (Don't most?) I wouldn't change them. For a Metal Les Paul, maybe not.
How does your guitar sound overall, what is it missing, needing, have too much or little of....If anything. Live with them for a few weeks. Although I could easily see weeks turning to months with those.
As most said - Live with them.
I came here looking for chics...It is a PICKUP lounge :lmao:
Anyway, a few issues...
AlexR said it best (Bloodrose said it too, and others): Since you have them, the ONLY opinion that matters is YOURS. I do not know what you dig, so even if you told me what you thought, it would be hard to reference! Rick - I know what sounds and approaches he takes and what he plays.
Dishcharged/Kojack's advice: If you are into experimenting just to do it, sounds very cool and interesting. To be fair, they are "tech-ing" for the sake of tech, but that's cool. It's how we learn! Of course, who knows if that would sound good in YOUR guitar.
As for the global content - REALITY CHECK: we are talking about Epiphone Guitars and Epiphone pickups. They make some fine and dandy gear, especially at the price point. However, lets not lose our minds if a mag here or a slab of wood there is NOT what it said or should be. As I have always said - in a pinch they will grind up the table tops in the lunch room and make guitars if they run out of wood. God only knows what happens to pickups. Probably chop up refrigerator magnets if they needed to...
And all of that said - two final points:
Nothing beats spending some time with your gear dialing in what you want to hear (even if it isn't your sacred 6/4/7 - 6.4 Bass Mid Treble - Gain setting! And as always, people NEVER spend enough time setting heights, adjusting poles, etc...
All of that considered - if all you want is opinions out of pure curiosity, I think they are OK. For an all around guitar I wouldn't run around looking for anything to swap. Played a bunch in music stores and always thought they were pretty cool for whatever. As always, if it is Pantera or Joe Pass you seek....maybe not. Always looking for a 339 and if it had them (Don't most?) I wouldn't change them. For a Metal Les Paul, maybe not.
How does your guitar sound overall, what is it missing, needing, have too much or little of....If anything. Live with them for a few weeks. Although I could easily see weeks turning to months with those.
As most said - Live with them.
jalguitarman
Junior Member
Re: Epiphone Pro Buckers. opinions please.
I was just curious what people thought of them. I can already tell that I want something warmer but with excellent clarity. Likely will be BKP Stormy Mondays.
I was just curious what people thought of them. I can already tell that I want something warmer but with excellent clarity. Likely will be BKP Stormy Mondays.
jalguitarman
Junior Member
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Yep, I was wanting opinions out of curiosity. The guitar is quite resonate and the woods are very nice looking, especially the back and sides (the top is average figuring like many of it's Gibson siblings. It's construction is 3 ply Laminate like it's Gibson siblings, same bracing. It needs a set up and it has a ground issue, as it hums in every position of the switch and actually hums less with the coil taps engaged (Grrrr). I will have the electronics all upraised but form everything I can gather, wood wise this guitar has 'It". Thank you Aceman. And stay away from the Fiber One bars.
Diego
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I've got Probuckers in my Les Paul and Alnico Classic Pros in my 339.
I'd put both sets on par with any Duncan Designed pickup sets. They won't ruin a guitar like the old Epiphone Mudbuckers did.
They sound really good, in my opinion. The Probuckers could use a bit more high-end for me, but I like my tones a bit more aggressive/modern and these are vintage-style pups, so I'm OK with it.
The 339 unsurprisingly sounds a lot more open and spanky and I definitely won't change the ACPs in that guitar. They sound just right.
I've got Probuckers in my Les Paul and Alnico Classic Pros in my 339.
I'd put both sets on par with any Duncan Designed pickup sets. They won't ruin a guitar like the old Epiphone Mudbuckers did.
They sound really good, in my opinion. The Probuckers could use a bit more high-end for me, but I like my tones a bit more aggressive/modern and these are vintage-style pups, so I'm OK with it.
The 339 unsurprisingly sounds a lot more open and spanky and I definitely won't change the ACPs in that guitar. They sound just right.
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
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Not an everyday thing, but not a first either. We have on agreed on occasion. We play different music so we have different perspectives. That only enriches the forum. God forbid everyone had the same opinions.
Not an everyday thing, but not a first either. We have on agreed on occasion. We play different music so we have different perspectives. That only enriches the forum. God forbid everyone had the same opinions.
