Eric Clapton - there has been A LOT of discussion within the threads on him.

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"Radioactive"? Really? That has to be one of the worst pieces of spooge that Page ever put out.

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Re: Eric Clapton - there has been A LOT of discussion within the threads on him.

It was a MTv/radio friendly single for the album, but the lead is awesome. The album itself is killer as is JP's guitar work.

 
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greekdude said:
My favorite Zep song by far is "Babe_I'm_Gonna_Leave_You", and the guitar work is really nice. All acoustic guitar work in LZ, LZ II and LZ IV IMHO is very nice. Still love it. My first riff was whole lotta love. (Paranoid and smoke on the water came close after). Still much of nostalgia for back then. But guitar God? Nah...
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We can agree to disagree. I will never change your opinion you will never change mine. Jimmy Page throwing his guitar down the stairs sounds better than the majority of the stuff others have put out there.
 
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leevc5 said:
How could you hate unplugged??? From Signe to Rollin' & Tumblin' he performed a symphony with fourteen movements. I guess it's just the way you approach it.
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It was the perfect album for older fans of his who could now get away with listening to Clapton on family trips with the wife and kids, yet still have some 'street cred'. :)
In other words, it didn't break any ground musically, guitaristically, or culturally. It watered down everything for the average Pottery Barn shopper.
 
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Mincer said:
It was the perfect album for older fans of his who could now get away with listening to Clapton on family trips with the wife and kids, yet still have some 'street cred'. :)
In other words, it didn't break any ground musically, guitaristically, or culturally. It watered down everything for the average Pottery Barn shopper.
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You are right.
-a pottery barn shopper(not yet anyway)
 
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Securb said:
I think the 4th component we are missing is innovation. The people we regard as Guitar Gods did groundbreaking things with their instruments. Take Joe Perry as an example. Chops, the guy, has put down some of the coolest licks in the history of rock. Commercial success, no one will argue that point. Well, know, check that box again. Will he ever be known as a guitar god, hell no. Innovation is the key. Jimmy Page created the blueprint for testosterone-fueled rock. Blackmore was playing in 4ths to define his tone and forging neoclassical rock. EVH and Hendrix we all know what they did for the instrument. Randy Rhoades took the Blackmore and EVH torch and carried it to the next level. Frank Zappa taught us how to play outside the box and not to be limited by traditional tonalities or harmonies. These guys are Guitar Gods, I just don't see EC or Joe Perry in the same class. Innovation is the key
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Agreed - innovation is the 4th item needed.

In the sixties, Clapton definitely was an innovator with his blistering blues-rock. Cream was an innovative group as well. He hit all 4 components.

But after the 70s, fizzle.

It seems there are 2 sides to Clapton - the sixties "Clapton is God" Guitar God Clapton which carried through to the seventies ("Cocaine"), and the lukewarm Clapton after.
 
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Demanic said:
Oh, I'm sorry, popular appeal doesn't much factor into my calculations. "The masses" are often oblivious to true divinity.

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They (the masses) are truly oblivious, but we have to keep things separate when categorizing.

There's "guitar gods" and then there's "guitarists' guitar gods". I would place Petrucci in the latter category along with EJ, Morse, Malmsteen, Vai, Satch, Aldrich, etc
 
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I care little for the opinions of the masses.

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I always consider mass. I will continue to disregard "The Masses".

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Yes Sheldon.

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leevc5 said:
THAT BEING THE CASE CONSIDER THIS:
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I took a look at that for a few seconds and realized there is a quadratic equation on the 5th line down that has an incorrect polynomial. You couldn't fry a fish with that calculation. I could work it out right for you in probably less than 5 minutes, but it'd cost you.
 
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ItsaBass said:
Hendrix would have gone on to make a bunch of crap, as he was already kinda doing when he died, and Clapton never would have had the chance to become truly abysmal. I can't think of many, if any, '60's guitar gods who survived through the '70's without turning out a bunch of crap.
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This is the thing I wonder. Had Hendrix, Randy and others lived longer, would they have gone on to do more incredible things, or flame out? I try not to waste too much time on it, as its pretty unfair to expect that someone can keep being awesome without peaking..

As far as Clapton. Cream and Blind Faith were tops for me. I do like Cocaine. (the song) I too, used to hate Lay Down Sally.. But now I think it has a pretty cool groove. Just the guitar.. Again, unfair to expect 60 plus years of ground breaking.
 
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LOL! Posted my reply before reading all the pages. It wasnt intentional that I mimiced Crusty, but have always respected his input!

Also, in regards to Page. Great stuff, lots of covered ground from accoustic to electric. Again, the magic may have peaked.

Pretty cool story about what the Stones did for their supporting act! I remember seeing Gary Moore open for Krokus and Def Lep on the Pyro tour. Gary got booed off the stage. He was mad and flipped off the crowd. I was ticked cuz I wanted to see his set.. But of course everyone wanted to see Def Lep.. Still makes me mad tho.
 
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BloodRose said:
This is the thing I wonder. Had Hendrix, Randy and others lived longer, would they have gone on to do more incredible things, or flame out? I try not to waste too much time on it, as its pretty unfair to expect that someone can keep being awesome without peaking..
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That has to remain a subject of conjecture/speculation forever. Maybe it was truly a instance for those early rock legends where the candle that burns the brightest as at the end of it's wick? Could they truly have been the proverbial 'shooting star'? Don't discount that possibility.
 
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Personally I like Eric as a player and as a musician and is one person of a few who has inspired me to play. I am not in a position in any way to criticise his work its obvious to me he has earned the right to be a real professional musician his bank account proves that.
 
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Clapton and Dickey Betts, and Duane Allman are huge influences as guitar players on me. And Dickey Betts, and Allman are both heavily influenced by Clapton.

I much prefer Clapton live to in the studio recordings throughout his career. Live he is just amazing. His improvised solos just flow. The phrasing and everything. Such feeling. His feelings translate through his guitar so well when he plays live. Very few can claim that. Live he can even make Lay Down Sally almost listenable.

I do not agree that his post Cream playing was/is not as good. He is just as good today as then IMO, especially live.

Don't confuse how he plays with what he plays. Just like all of us he needs good songs to really connect.
 
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