Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

^ Agreed.

The little nuances, like the note being slightly sharp because of how I pick, are what make each of us sound different.

The only place I ever hear people who are picking so hard they sound out of tune are the djent guys. Also, it sounds like they’re using way too light strings tuned down with too thick of a pick.

 

[Chistopher]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

No matter how "good" your technique is, your attack will always be sharp if you're picking hard. Not so with the Evertune.

Also, in the studio, it's not uncommon for bands to break songs up into a lot of little bits to record separately to get around minor tuning issues (a fixed bridge will generally drift a cent or two during a full-song take). An Evertune doesn't have that drift.

There's the problem with Evertune. Most people don't see a few cents as a big enough problem to warrant carving a big chunk of wood out of their guitar for. Heck, some studio albums are recorded so out of tune that it's impossible to try to play along with them. Throw in the wonky bending, and I can see why they aren't that popular.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

No matter how "good" your technique is, your attack will always be sharp if you're picking hard. Not so with the Evertune.

Also, in the studio, it's not uncommon for bands to break songs up into a lot of little bits to record separately to get around minor tuning issues (a fixed bridge will generally drift a cent or two during a full-song take). An Evertune doesn't have that drift.

If you just want to play blues licks in your bedroom, you probably have no need of it. If you do studio work, or really heavy rhythm work, it can be a useful tool.

I think that's the thing- if you are consistently picking that hard, enough so it brings your guitar out of tune, your technique isn't good.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

I think that's the thing- if you are consistently picking that hard, enough so it brings your guitar out of tune, your technique isn't good.

Or it can be addressed by heavier strings, different pick, ie, things that don't cost $300 and require major surgery.

The more I think about what this thing is doing, the more I dislike it. Way back when, I remember reading a tab for a Sepultura song. In one part, it noted that Andreas was leaning his hand on the floating bridge to raise the pitch approx 1/4 step. It sounds cool as hell in the song. He took something a less skilled player would do inadvertently (palm mute too heavily on a Floyd) and used it as an effect, and was a drop in the bucket of what makes him sound different than every other metal guitarist. The Evertune is the polar opposite of that approach.

 

[Cynical]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

I think that's the thing- if you are consistently picking that hard, enough so it brings your guitar out of tune, your technique isn't good.

Tell that to the legions of thrash bands out there that have been tuning flat so the attack of their note is in tune and the decay is flat for decades.

You have to pick that hard to get certain sounds; there's no way around it.

Or it can be addressed by heavier strings, different pick, ie, things that don't cost $300 and require major surgery.

A thinner pick is no different than picking more softly and angling a bit more, except it doesn't give you as good of control.

Heavier strings comes with inharmonicity and tuning issues. All of the math that defines how guitars work only works when the ratio of length to thickness of the string is effectively infinite. As you put thicker and thicker strings on, the ratio of length to thickness gets worse, and the math starts breaking down. This is why basses need really long scale lengths, but guitars with scale lengths longer than 27.5" haven't been en vogue since the '60s (the only six-string I know of with a scale length that long for under $2k is the PRS SE 277).

 

[Mincer]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

Tell that to the legions of thrash bands out there that have been tuning flat so the attack of their note is in tune and the decay is flat for decades.

You have to pick that hard to get certain sounds; there's no way around it.


A thinner pick is no different than picking more softly and angling a bit more, except it doesn't give you as good of control.

Heavier strings comes with inharmonicity and tuning issues. All of the math that defines how guitars work only works when the ratio of length to thickness of the string is effectively infinite. As you put thicker and thicker strings on, the ratio of length to thickness gets worse, and the math starts breaking down. This is why basses need really long scale lengths, but guitars with scale lengths longer than 27.5" haven't been en vogue since the '60s (the only six-string I know of with a scale length that long for under $2k is the PRS SE 277).

Ha- gladly. The technique isn't a good one. I get coming up with a device that 'cures' that issue. And I certainly am in favor of looking at every aspect of the guitar to modify it for whatever music is in your head and lets you do your thing. But also, hitting the guitar really hard just doesn't make a great sound, much like pounding on a piano.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

A thinner pick is no different than picking more softly and angling a bit more, except it doesn't give you as good of control.

I do not agree. My 6 year old daughter has a mini-Strat that she likes making noise with. She uses a Tortex .60mm, beats the hell out of the strings, and it sounds like it. For me to get the same sound with a .88mm pick, I have to hit the strings pretty hard, too. The difference is she's not breaking them.

Heavier strings comes with inharmonicity and tuning issues. All of the math that defines how guitars work only works when the ratio of length to thickness of the string is effectively infinite. As you put thicker and thicker strings on...

You should probably tell all those jazz and bluegrass guys using 13s about the inharmonicity and tuning issues. I also said use heavier strings, not ultra heavy strings. If all the guys you say need to tune flat are currently using 10s, I bet they'd benefit from 11s, or maybe going from a 1mm to a .88mm pick. If they need to tune their strings flat because their attack is that noticeably sharp, I don't think you could say there is any control benefit from that pick.

If those things don't help the sharp attack, it's time to go back to the guitar teacher and get some lessons on picking.

 

[some_dude]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

Tell that to the legions of thrash bands out there that have been tuning flat so the attack of their note is in tune and the decay is flat for decades.

Name them. List albums.

 

[Cynical]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

Name them. List albums.

Literally anything Andy Sneap was involved with, either as a guitarist or a producer, just to name one. He insists on it 100%.

 

[some_dude]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

Literally anything Andy Sneap was involved with, either as a guitarist or a producer, just to name one. He insists on it 100%.

List.

 

[Cynical]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q="andy+sneap"

 

[some_dude]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

http://lmgtfy.com/?q="andy+sneap"

That’s a cop out and you know it. You posted something stupid as fact, now back it up.

 

[JB_From_Hell]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

^ lol

Tried googling it, found people discussing the idea

 

[Bodeanicus]

Re: Evertune - who has one, is it worth it?

From a distance they seem like a gimmick that solves some sort of problem I don’t have.

Pretty much.

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