Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup

Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup

It's the 100-year anniversary of Henry's turn to the Dark Side, which happened in the sewers beneath an optimistic young 1914 Wall Street.

I'm just kidding. I don't harbor any animosity towards Gibson & Friends. I don't even have a horse in this race, children.

Why didn't they just add a nice "100" after the original Les Paul signature? It looks like a 4 year old trying to copy the original.
 
Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup

Maybe that's what Lester's signature really looked like? :dunno:
 
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I went to GC and checked a couple out.

  • I really liked the deep walnut brown color on the SG.
  • The zero fret doesn't really seem to be an actual zero fret, more like a brass nut with a lip. Almost looks like a floyd nut with the locks removed.
  • I don't mind the Les Paul 100 sig so much, although I'd prefer it wasn't there.
  • The frets didn't really seem low to me.
  • The fretboard is definitely wider, but I'm not sure the string spacing is, seems like there's just more fretboard on either side. Otherwise it didn't bother me.
  • The robot tuners and hologram logo on the back are a complete abomination and I'm so disappointed I forgot to take a picture of it, it was the thing I hated most and really wanted to show you all what it looks like.
  • The yellow special was too heavy for the size guitar it is.
  • I like that the Jr and Specials come with a wrap tail now, and I also like that it appears to be a raw finish and not chrome.

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The adjustable metal nut contraption is hideous. It's not about the demand for a zero fret. It's about making more money. It's their way to respond to the criticism their nut work, while avoiding having to pay a worker to actually spend the time it takes to craft a good nut. Now all a worker has to do is slap on a piece of metal and turn a few set screws. The metal nut probably saves them the equivalent of at least an hour in labor on each guitar versus making a proper nut. Not that I mind the concept of a metal nut, mind you. It's just that their only "concept" here is being cheap asses.

Same with Plek (though it isn't new to them). Just another excuse to minimize the time spent on fretwork (as if they were spending much anyhow), while at the same time using it as a selling point. Of course any good production guitar maker would be glad to have a Plek to do a lot of the coarse work, but, having pride and wanting to do their best, would do the fine work by hand just like they always did. The Plek has never been about improving quality, but about reducing labor costs in a mass production environment. There's nothing wrong with that, as long as you don't use it as a crutch, to avoid doing proper fret work. However, from what I have played from Gibson since they got the Plek, my guess is that they don't do much at all after Pleking the guitar.

And they set them up now! Ooooh! I wonder if they realize that that's actually really embarrassing statement to make, as it does nothing but admit that they didn't do it before (which was obvious).

The headstock logo...is anyone actually gonna want a guitar with that gaudy thing on it?

The robo tuners.....I dunno. As long as they work, they don't prevent you from tuning normally, and they are reliable, whatever. But I bet that to Gibson's benefit, they help shave off production time too. And I really wonder about the reliability of any over engineered and unnecessary product, especially one from a company known for making relatively crummy products over the past decade plus.

And ah, yes. I forgot that "P90's" now have slugs in them. LOL. I was hoping that was just the cheesy Melody Makers from last year that were using those pickups, but I guess not. Cheaper to press a few slugs in than to take the time to screw them into a keeper bar I guess? Man, that is really scraping the barrel for cost cutting opportunities.

All gloss finishes now? Fine by me. This is part of their purging of any interest in keeping budget conscious customers, which I am pretty okay with in theory. I just wish their quality would actually move up to be worthy of the high end prices they want.

And everything is still just "mahogany," by the way...whatever that means.

With all of these classless, blatantly-corporate-cost-cutting changes in conjunction with the price increases, I really can't fathom who with much experience or brains is gonna actually buy these things.
 
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Re: Everyone can Gibson flame over here if you'd like. Full 2015 lineup

So glad I have never been a fan of Gibson, if I were I would be severely bummed. Those are some ugly "improvements" for more money.
 
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