EVH MXR Phase 90

Cazmarzak

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I posted this at my other forum, but I'll post here as well. Anyone tried one of these yet? They have this switch on them that allows you to go from a block logo to a script logo and I was wondering if there is much difference.

What I would have like to see is for dunlop to do an EVH flanger,since they aren't making them anymore. That would be cool.

But of course now I have to take out my phase 90 and paint it red white and black HAHA! :burnout:
 
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Oh and can anyone tell me which of these effects he used at the begining of Aint Talkin Bout Love? have the Phase 90 but can't seem to get it. IS the effect only on the GCBC (o the last part of the riff) or is it applied to the whole thing from the start?
 
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For what the EVH models have been selling for, I'd grab an original MXR. Having used both an original MXR and a Dunlop reissue, I can tell you that the Dunlops just don't compare. They're okay for the money, but I prefer the originals. As for the EVH model, the only thing that switch does is remove the R28 resistor from the circuit. It doesn't really switch between block and script logo, as the Dunlop circuit is totally different from the original MXR circuits. You can get the same result by opening up your pedal and clipping R28.

As far as Eddie's effects, he used a flanger and a slight echo for the intro to "Ain't Talkin' 'bout Love."

Ryan
 
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Didn't EVH just use a plain old orange MXR phase 90 on the older Van Halen recordings?

Why bother paying close to a hundred dollars for stripes and a name when you can get the same sound for close to cheap?


I dunno...it looks cool, and it's got a blue LED, but man, it ain't worth it...although I shouldn't judge it without trying it...
 
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Cazmarzak said:
Ryan,

What is the result of cliping the r28? I've never heard one of the originals either.

R28 is the feedback resistor. You may have noticed that the Dunlop Phase 90 adds some extra distortion when you kick it on. Removing the R28 resistor will fix this, and it will make the reissues sound a bit more like the originals. Still, I always recommend original MXR products in favor of the Dunlop reissues. I really don't see the point of reissuing something if you're going to completely change it. The original MXR pedals had all point to point wiring, while the newer ones use printed circuit boards and have all the components soldered to the board. They are pretty much impossible to wire for true bypass because the switch and the jacks are soldered directly to the board. Some of the components are kind of cheap as well, chosen for price and not tone.

The originals can be heard all over the old Van Halen albums. You've probably heard them lots of times and just didn't realize it. If you happen to be handy with electronics, you can sometimes find broken MXR pedals on Ebay at good prices. In good working and cosmetic condition, they typically sell for anywhere between $150 and $200. I got a non-working, mint condition 1978 model for $25 and fixed it with $10 worth of parts.

Ryan
 
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OK, I was 50/50 on the idea of this pedal when I first heard about it. I thought it was just another EVH striped gimmick/sellout. However, I actually got to play one Monday and it sounded killer. I've got one of those RI Phase 90's Dunlop has out and it sounds like crap compared to the EVH Phase 90. The EVH has a nice warm thick phase swirl to it, where's the Phase 90 I have sounds like it's swirling through a tin can. Put it this way, I was originally put off by the stripes on the EVH Phase 90 and then won over completely by the sound of it. And yes I did buy it based on nothing other than wanting a solid sounding Phaser. The original MXR Phase 90's in good condition generally go for more than the EVH, which is averaging around $129 at most places. And you have to consider the original MXR's are 30 years or more old. Things wear out. I'd say for the money, the EVH is the way to go. As for that RI version I had, sold it the day I bought the EVH.
 
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Shnook said:
OK, I was 50/50 on the idea of this pedal when I first heard about it. I thought it was just another EVH striped gimmick/sellout. However, I actually got to play one Monday and it sounded killer. I've got one of those RI Phase 90's Dunlop has out and it sounds like crap compared to the EVH Phase 90. The EVH has a nice warm thick phase swirl to it, where's the Phase 90 I have sounds like it's swirling through a tin can. Put it this way, I was originally put off by the stripeds on the EVH Phase 90 and then won over completely by the sound of it. And yes I did buy it based on nothing other than wanting a solid sounding Phaser. The original MXR Phase 90's in good condition generally go for more than the EVH, which is averaging around $129 at most places. And you have to consider the original MXR's are 30 years or more old. Things wear out. I'd say for the money, the EVH is the way to go. As for that RI version I had, sold it the day I bought the EVH.


i'm with shnook on this...i picked one up recently and the thing friggin sounds great...way better than my orange phase 90...as for an original...don't know don't care...thos ethings are impossible to find and would cost more than the EVH...

i like it ALOT
 
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I did notice when I got mine that in the FX loop it added a LOT of distortion and not in a good way. Then someone told me that those pedal were designed to go in front of the amp and not in the loop.

I tried this and it was WAY better sounding. As a matter of fact I think it sounds Great! I can't rally afford to go out and get the EVH model so I guess I'll just have to do with my orange one. But Like I said I like it.

Plus with the EVH, I would just drive myself crazy switching back and forth the little switch. HAHAHA!

By the way guys, which mode sounded better on the EVH, just out of curiosity?
 
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Can anyone here actually verify firsthand for sure (not heresay) that the new EVH is the same circuit as the reissue? Maybe it uses better parts selected for tone? This would account for the difference these guys heard in an A/B comparison...
 
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rspst14 said:
The original MXR pedals had all point to point wiring, while the newer ones use printed circuit boards and have all the components soldered to the board. They are pretty much impossible to wire for true bypass because the switch and the jacks are soldered directly to the board. Some of the components are kind of cheap as well, chosen for price and not tone.

I have had many MXR phase 90's (script and block logo...thin and thick bud boxes) and NONE of them were PTP. They were all PCB with a few resistors that extended across the PCB. I would love to see a picture of "point to point" wiring on any original MXR pedal.
 
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psychodave said:
I have had many MXR phase 90's (script and block logo...thin and thick bud boxes) and NONE of them were PTP. They were all PCB with a few resistors that extended across the PCB. I would love to see a picture of "point to point" wiring on any original MXR pedal.

Oops, maybe I have my terms confused. What I meant was that the originals have the older MXR PCB's, and the jacks and switch are connected to the board with wires, rather than the PCB-mount jacks and switch that the newer pedals use.

Ryan
 
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I'd suggest emailing the customer service/tech folks at Jim Dunlop for specific questions about the circuits and whatnot. They seem pretty good at getting back to you with whatever answers they can dig up.

Personally, I like both the Script and the regular setting on the EVH 90. Both sound really good. Now if MXR can come up with an EVH Flanger with similar success, I'm there.
 
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