Fake pickups ? Or mislabeled sticker ?

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Gary1983

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Hello ! (sorry for my english - it's not my primary language)
I've got SD Dave Mustaine pickups in my Dean VMNT guitar. I like them very much but yesterday whike I removed bridge pickup to clear it , I saw strange label.
Looks like legit label but insted of ROHS , it says RHOS. For those who don't know what ROHS mean - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restriction_of_Hazardous_Substances_Directive
So it's clear thar RHOS doesn't even exist. On neck pickup it's ok - it says ROHS/

It's only mistake in sticker , or what ?
 
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Welcome to the forum.

It would help to have photographs of the offending pickup and self-adhesive label.

Rhos is a Welsh place name.
 
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http://i68.tinypic.com/10sb1mt.jpg (clink on image to make it larger )

Here is the link.

I was a bit scared when I found this review of pickups :
"The thing that absolutely sucks is the FAKE low quality pickups. Yes, they are fake. They may come from Seymour Duncan but they are indeed fake because they are not the authentic pickups that you would receive if bought separately to install yourself. They are cheap economy versions that sound BAD and are not even wired according to the diagrams provided by the Seymour Duncan site! I bought and installed some SD blackouts and now it sounds awesome."
Here is the whole opinion : http://www.musiciansfriend.com/guitars/dean-dave-mustaine-vmnt-angel-of-deth-electric-guitar ( second from the top)

I will feel better , when I will know that my pickups are not some sh*tty counterfeits ! :)
 
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We get 'is this fake' requests all the time, and we can only tell with pictures (and even then, sometimes it is hard to be 100% sure). But take some pics, post them here and we will do our best to help you out.
 
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The one photograph is too poorly lit to illustrate anything other than the self-adhesive label.

I have purchased genuine SD pickups, that arrived in sealed clear plastic box packaging, with their ROHS label misspelled. I don't sweat it.

Regarding fakery. It would not be in Dean's interests to market a Mustaine signature model with anything other than genuine SD Mustaine signature pickups. If, as would be expected, the pickups are purchased in large Original Equipment Manufacturer batches, it is possible that they carry different markings than the regular, production line, after-market version of the exact same pickup. The wiring circuit for a signature guitar will conform to what the artiste specifies rather than to a generic diagram for Les Paul format control layouts.
 
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10sb1mt.jpg
 
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Oh yes , this is better quality and size :) Thanks Jolly :)

Funkfingers - So you also encountered this problem ? This was specific model like Blackouts or some other ? I don't have idea , it's just stupid label - why they can't make it right ?
 
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My example was an OEM passive humbucker in an unusual colour scheme.
 
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Looks fine. Simply a typographical error, nothing to worry about.

The fact that they came stock in your Dean VMNT should afford you additional peace of mind. Dean uses real Duncan pickups.
 
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RoHs is just a compliance sticker used by the EU and Asia, it's just basically stating that the electrical product is free of the 7 restricted material catagories..
That is all it has to do with the pickup, it's just a compliance sticker and probably a typo..

Any business that sells applicable electrical or electronic products, sub-assemblies or components directly to RoHS countries, or sells to resellers, distributors or integrators that in turn sell products to these countries, is impacted if they utilize any of the restricted materials.

The RoHS Directive currently applies to products in Categories 1 through 7. Categories 8 and 9 are exempted from compliance.

RoHS specifies maximum levels for the following six restricted materials:

Lead (Pb): < 1000 ppm
Mercury (Hg): < 100 ppm
Cadmium (Cd): < 100 ppm
Hexavalent Chromium: (Cr VI) < 1000 ppm
Polybrominated Biphenyls (PBB): < 1000 ppm
Polybrominated Diphenyl Ethers (PBDE): < 1000 ppm
Bis(2-Ethylhexyl) phthalate (DEHP): < 1000 ppm
Benzyl butyl phthalate (BBP): < 1000 ppm
Dibutyl phthalate (DBP): < 1000 ppm
Diisobutyl phthalate (DIBP): < 1000 ppm
 
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Which is why I am prevented from purchasing Phat Staple pickups.
 
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Funkfingers said:
Which is why I am prevented from purchasing Phat Staple pickups.
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Can you purchase them second-hand and avoid the restriction? I used to be involved with ROHS testing of board-level components in the U.S. for quality assurance purposes, but I never dealt with the distribution side of the whole ROHS thing. Curious if it applies to individuals and private party purchases the same way it does to corporations and businesses?
 
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masta' c said:
Can you purchase them second-hand and avoid the restriction? I used to be involved with ROHS testing of board-level components in the U.S. for quality assurance purposes, but I never dealt with the distribution side of the whole ROHS thing. Curious if it applies to individuals and private party purchases the same way it does to corporations and businesses?
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Good question!
 
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I just got a Tele bridge pickup from eBay and have doubts about it's authenticity. In the eBay title it states that it is a Seymour Duncan Tele Bridge pickup. In the item description it states that it is a Vintage Broadcaster pickup. Right away I saw that the wires were incorrect and the output was very low, 6.1k. Now I'm not even sure that its a Seymour Duncan pickup at all. Any thoughts/opinions?

SD Broadcaster 2.jpgSD Broadcaster 4.jpg
 
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First of all, Tarbender, you should have opened a new thread to show you are the poster. Some daily guys here ignore old threads.

Your question is a tough one. The puppy looks new, while the baseplate is really old. It has the 1B on the label for the STL-1b. The leads are definitly new and not made by SD. Two scenarios: newly made pickup with an old baseplate e.g. a new wind with some old parts or a repair of an old pickup.
if you can measure the DC resistance, this could be a way to confirm.
 
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