Fancy Wiring, need help!

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So it's been a long time since I did a stroll through the forums here (Sorry, had to!) And I unfortunately can't do the wiring harness I originally ordered for my guitar, so I have a new one I need help with (Actually, need someone to make it!)



If someone could isolate the Series and Phase switching, and add Triple Shots to it, that would be fantastic. The series switching is quite convoluted, so it might be easier to remove the Coil Splits/Parallel wiring. I don't know what's what, so I can't do it myself.



Here's the Triple Shots diagram with Phase and Series, but not the special Series that is in the 20 dual

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: Fancy Wiring, need help!

The triple shot diagram does everything the dual 20 does and more. The only thing the dual 20 has that the other does not us treble bleeds on both volume controls.

That dual 20 diagram is so idiosyncratic it would likely only be useful with a particular pair of pickups Ina particular guitar. For example, it only allows parallel coils on the bridge pickup. IME parallel coil is most useful on the neck pickup. I never found much good use for it on the bridge, which tells me that wiring is solving a specific problem with specific pickups. Treble bleeds is another thing that you should only install if you actually need it, not just because Bonamassa had it.

 

[Link8417]

Re: Fancy Wiring, need help!

The triple shot diagram does everything the dual 20 does and more. The only thing the dual 20 has that the other does not us treble bleeds on both volume controls.

That dual 20 diagram is so idiosyncratic it would likely only be useful with a particular pair of pickups Ina particular guitar. For example, it only allows parallel coils on the bridge pickup. IME parallel coil is most useful on the neck pickup. I never found much good use for it on the bridge, which tells me that wiring is solving a specific problem with specific pickups. Treble bleeds is another thing that you should only install if you actually need it, not just because Bonamassa had it.

From my understanding, is the Series mode on the 20 Dual is completely different from conventional Series wiring, in the sense that the tone caps go into the hot rather than ground to give it a "Broadcaster" configuration. Which is why I want someone to replace the coil splits/parallel wiring with the triple shots, or even just isolate the series and phase switching and make it a 2C wiring so I can get the "And More" out of it. The wiring was simply created as an upgrade to Jimmy Page's #2 wiring, and it was the original creator's preference to have a parallel bridge as well as treble bleeds (I hate Treble Bleeds).

 

[beaubrummels]

Re: Fancy Wiring, need help!

the Series mode on the 20 Dual is completely different from conventional Series wiring, in the sense that the tone caps go into the hot rather than ground to give it a "Broadcaster" configuration.

That sentence doesn't make sense to me. A broadcaster didn't have a tone control. And tone caps never go into the hot signal. The tone network always goes to ground. Whether the cap comes before the tone pot or after the tone pot makes no difference. Whether the tone network is tapped off the volume input or volume output does make a difference, which is well documented as "50's wiring" vs "modern wiring."

 

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Re: Fancy Wiring, need help!

That sentence doesn't make sense to me. A broadcaster didn't have a tone control. And tone caps never go into the hot signal. The tone network always goes to ground. Whether the cap comes before the tone pot or after the tone pot makes no difference. Whether the tone network is tapped off the volume input or volume output does make a difference, which is well documented as "50's wiring" vs "modern wiring."

When you roll off the tone control on the neck pickup, you get full effect of the tone capacitor like in a Broadcaster. The tone cap outputs into the hot so that the bridge's high frequencies don't get filtered by the neck's tone cap. By turning the bridge volume control down, you are essentially creating a blend knob for the bridge pickup like in a broadcaster. They're not sent to hot per say, but through hot into the ground to retain the high frequencies of the other pickup.