Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

[Kommerzbassist]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

From what you've described first, I'd say go Custom Custom... smooth, singing, round, high output leads is what it'll do.

 

[LunaticFringe]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

If you like fat, thick bridge pickups, the A2 '59b and A2 JB would be possible choices, as would the Custom Custom.

Also, if you like the Full Shred, why not try it with an A8 magnet?

Hmm, how would the a2 make the '59 bridge thicker? I might be really interested in trying that...

 

[Antihero]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Actually amps and pickups interact just as much as guitars do with pickups or strings do with guitars and pickups and amps....or picks do with strings and pickups and amps etc. Having others inquire about your entire chain to get a clear picture of what you are doing is a good thing.

There are a lot of guys here that, obviously by reading the thread, have quite a lot more experience than you do. You should be taking advantage of any advice we have given you and thanking us. It sounds to me like you are getting in a huff because we are taking time and TRULY trying to help you. Nobody here HAS to take the time to help you out...but a lot of us have and you find our help funny? That is really uncool of you.

Honestly this is pretty much verbatim what i thought after reading this thread.

 

[Antihero]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

I'd even go as far as saying that string brand and pick type go a further way in increasing thickness of the tone than a change of amp

God no, different amps make a enormous difference in sound whereas strings and picks make a tiny difference. Sure a string change can liven up a guitar, but it wont make a Champ into a metal chug machine.

 

[hanumanlangur]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Hmm, how would the a2 make the '59 bridge thicker? I might be really interested in trying that...

An A2 magnet will give a pickup that has full mids, which will make it sound thicker than a pickup that has its emphasis on bass and treble. An A2 '59 is very thick, to my ears. Of the Duncan pickups, it's probably closest to a Seth Lover. Either that, or a fatter, creamier Alnico II Pro.

 

[super rad stuff]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

if you have a bunch of pickups that have different qualities that you like, but can't decide, try a hybrid:

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?t=22538

from all the info in this thread i've gathered, i'd say make a jb/fullshred with an a8 magnet, that way you have fs clarity and tightness, jb mids and harmonics, and a8 fatness/thickness/warmth. also because of the slight imbalance, you'll have slightly more harmonic overtones

 

[Axl H]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Gibson's original Dirty Fingers are so over the top, they can be controlled (not tamed ) by various pots and caps....but mostly by meaty palm/palm moves across the bridge!

There are some seriously wild chord grinds with Dirty Fingers, that are not available otherwise.

Yeah I agree, but smooth is not at all what the Dirty Fingers is.... Raw, agressive and in your face is what I would descripe it as.... Not his thing.


TT: Maybe the DiMarzio Breed could be interesting for you?

 

[wanmei1]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

1.You could buy a bunch of different magnets and swap em' until you find your little piece of "tone".
2. You could buy every pup ever made.
3. You could commission pups and try them all.
4. You could buy an amp that gives you "that sound"
5. You could forget about the tone and just play.

 

[JohnnyGuitarCA]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Any luck yet?

 

[JohnnyGuitarCA]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Nope. Reb Beach used this pickup extensively with Dokken and I didn't like his tone at all. Furthermore, the Tone-Zone has somewhat the minimum output level that I want out of a pickup and the Norton is supposedly weaker (so is the Breed bridge).

About the Custom Custom, I think it won't have enough output and it won't be tight enough on the lower strings. I like the tightness I get with the FS.

Basically, what I want is a more harmonic FS, with more output and more agressiveness without being brittle. Something like a FS, EMG-85 and a JB in the same pickup would be perfect.

When I say I like a tone that's warm like the neck pickup, I don't mean that I don't want any treble. I want good treble bite, but it has to be smooth (unlike a DD, for example).

I added the Crazy8 and Alternative8 on my list and removed the Breed bridge, Invader and Custom Custom. I still keep the DMZ Super 3 and D-Sonic on my list though. Phil Collen has a very nice smooth saturated "bridge but neck like" tone on Adrenalize (also one of my fave tones!) and he was using a Super 3.

Also how about the Duncan RTM? Should be like a JB with more mids and more output and smoother due to the A2 magnet ?

CALL M.J. at DUNCAN AND TELL HER WHAT YOU'RE LOOKING FOR. :headbang:

 

[uOpt]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

JB with A2 magnet.

The Invader also does what you say, but you might be overwhelmed. It's extremely warm and fat. The JB/A2 is certainly the more usable pickup.

 

[xxxplorer]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Gibson Burstbucker 3... kinda like a PG with PMS. A little fatter, crankier and grit. It is actually a tad less hot than the PG though Resistance wise.

 

[shred4Him]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

I find it odd that people were picking on the original poster for going through pickups and not ever being happy with the tone. He did say it was more about feel than tone, which was why he was favoring high output pickups.

To that, I say try out the Suhr Aldrich pickups.

 

[Marshall_Abuser]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

I ordered a Suhr Aldrich, gonna try it, but I'm not convinced...

What about the Tom Anderson HN3 ?

And how does the Aldrich compare to the Crazy8 and Breed ?

I need something that's VERY middy and smooth, liquid, creamy, pouring, etc. (read: andy timmons' tone!)

To that, I say try out the Suhr Aldrich pickups.

 

[alex1fly]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Andy Timmons uses a pickup very similar to the Breed.

Dual Mesas and rack processing helps.

 

[alex1fly]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

I ordered a Suhr Aldrich, gonna try it, but I'm not convinced...

Having a good attitude helps. If you look for reasons to dislike the pup before you even try it, chances are you won't like it.

 

[wanmei1]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

I need something that's VERY middy and smooth, liquid, creamy, pouring, etc. (read: andy timmons' tone!)

Sounds like a P90.
Tried a good P90 ?

 

[super rad stuff]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Sounds like a P90.
Tried a good P90 ?

+1 they might not be up to par as far as output but they have most of those qualities(VERY middy and smooth, liquid, creamy, pouring) that you described. actually, a phat cat would be a good candidate for you, albiet not in stock trim. try it with some new magnets, as they come with 2. you could order a custom shop overwound phat cat with 2 a8 mags for the ultimate smooth, middy, high output pickup!

 

[shred4Him]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

I ordered a Suhr Aldrich, gonna try it, but I'm not convinced...

What about the Tom Anderson HN3 ?

And how does the Aldrich compare to the Crazy8 and Breed ?

I need something that's VERY middy and smooth, liquid, creamy, pouring, etc. (read: andy timmons' tone!)

Regardless of what anyone else says, I think you are in for some pickup swapping. The only way you are going to know if you like something is to try it out. If the Aldrich doesn't work, then give the Breed a shot. Unfortunately, there isn't going to be a shortcut to this process.

I think you will really like the Aldrich. I would put one in my Parker if I could fit it there. The question is whether it will be exactly what you want. It will be high enough output for you. I think it should be middy enough for you. It has high end, but not grating, fizzy, screetchy high end. It is a pickup that should let you dial in exactly what you need with your POD.

 

[Marshall_Abuser]

Re: Fat, thick, bridge pickups ?

Exactly, that's why I bought the Aldrich. I have to try it to hear if I like it !

Afterwards, IF I don't like the Aldrich enough, I will probably go with a Breed or Crazy8 as those are the other two I'm interested in.

The problem is that the Breed seems to have too low of an output for me and the Crazy8 has an alnico 8 magnet which some people say have a "particular" midrange.

Regardless of what anyone else says, I think you are in for some pickup swapping. The only way you are going to know if you like something is to try it out. If the Aldrich doesn't work, then give the Breed a shot. Unfortunately, there isn't going to be a shortcut to this process.

I think you will really like the Aldrich. I would put one in my Parker if I could fit it there. The question is whether it will be exactly what you want. It will be high enough output for you. I think it should be middy enough for you. It has high end, but not grating, fizzy, screetchy high end. It is a pickup that should let you dial in exactly what you need with your POD.