Favorite Fender Model?

[Plessure]

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I'm glad the real strat wins over the "i'm so minimalistic and i have no whammy bar and british twats love me and ear-piercing shrill noise is just part of the game (cause i kinda can't play cause i'm too busy writing new Radiohead songs)" strat. Also known as the "good ole nothing like trusty ole talk about work machine that one right there, special for sure" strat.

Ok maybe that was a bit too prejudiced

 

[chadd]

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I love my thinline tele, favorite Fender guitar. I play my strat a lot more because I need it for "that" tone on certain songs.

 

[beaubrummels]

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Ash body tele maple neck with early-mid 50's electronics/wiring.

 

[Jacew]

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The awesome Telecaster. It is the Model T of guitars. You can do any mod imaginable to it to make
it sound like anything you want. It is the best platform to hot rod bar none and still remains purposeful
and true to the incredible number of reincarnations that it has transformed itself into.

Isn't stratocaster much better with that?

All wiring on pickguard vs separate pickup pocket, pickguard and control plate.
Three identical pickup positions with generous routing instead of two different pickups in tight routing.
Trem capability.
?

 

[Plessure]

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Isn't stratocaster much better with that?

All wiring on pickguard vs separate pickup pocket, pickguard and control plate.
Three identical pickup positions with generous routing instead of two different pickups in tight routing.
Trem capability.
?

Yes. He's just waxing nostalgic

Stratocaster is the improved Fender.

A guitar with one big routing for pickups and so forth would be more customizable.

Am i missing something?

 

[Will S-T]

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Yes. He's just waxing nostalgic

Stratocaster is the improved Fender.

A guitar with one big routing for pickups and so forth would be more customizable.

Am i missing something?

Yep boys, you can build a Tele any which way you could possibly imagine.
Any config of pickups, bridges, plates, electronics and controls.
Think of the body as a blank canvas and let your imagination run wild.
Can't really do that with any other Fender, or indeed Gibson guitar, think about it.

 

[Jacew]

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Yep boys, you can build a Tele any which way you could possibly imagine.
Any config of pickups, bridges, plates, electronics and controls.
Think of the body as a blank canvas and let your imagination run wild.
Can't really do that with any other Fender, or indeed Gibson guitar, think about it.

Now you're just plain wrong. Stratocaster allows all the same, just that it's much easier to modify, because of the reasons explained earlier.

Not that tele has anything wrong as a guitar. I like them. What you claim it to be is just factually wrong.

 

[Chistopher]

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Now you're just plain wrong. Stratocaster allows all the same, just that it's much easier to modify, because of the reasons explained earlier.

Not that tele has anything wrong as a guitar. I like them. What you claim it to be is just factually wrong.

You can't turn a top route Strat body into a rear route one (very easily). You can't uncontour a Strat, but you can contour a Tele. A Strat neck fits on a Tele no problem, not the other way around. You also can't get a Strat to look good in butterscotch. You also can't angle a Strat headstock without it looking weird.

 

[Silence Kid]

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Isn't stratocaster much better with that?

All wiring on pickguard vs separate pickup pocket, pickguard and control plate.
Three identical pickup positions with generous routing instead of two different pickups in tight routing.
Trem capability.
?

"All wiring on pickguard" isn't a good thing to me; you can mess with the controls on any almost any other Fender (or near any other guitar) without taking off the strings... Except anything modeled on a Strat.

 

[justFred]

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You can't turn a top route Strat body into a rear route one (very easily). You can't uncontour a Strat, but you can contour a Tele. A Strat neck fits on a Tele no problem, not the other way around. You also can't get a Strat to look good in butterscotch. You also can't angle a Strat headstock without it looking weird.

So what would be the benefit of any of that? You want a butterscotch Strat with a Tele neck and dig out the contour yourself?

 

[Chistopher]

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So what would be the benefit of any of that? You want a butterscotch Strat with a Tele neck and dig out the contour yourself?

I think you missed the point. It was mentioned earlier that all the mods that can be done to a Tele can also be done to a Strat. No where did anyone mention there was a reason to do all of them to the same guitar.

 

[beaubrummels]

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Now you're just plain wrong. Stratocaster allows all the same, just that it's much easier to modify, because of the reasons explained earlier.

Not that tele has anything wrong as a guitar. I like them. What you claim it to be is just factually wrong.

Strat is not easier to modify. I can change the wiring of a tele all day long and never loosen the strings. If I need to change the pickups, Strats and Teles are about the same difficulty.

 

[Sirion]

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The giant elephant in the room is the tremolo system. Strats allow the user to choose between a hardtail and a tremolo model, whereas a Tele normally will fit a Tele bridge only. This might have to do with tradition, but I have seen far more people switch out the hardtails on a Strat than a Tele. Tremolos are another matter: here, a Tele would require significant re-routing to even be part of the game. One might argue that this is comparing apples to oranges, but I don't really see people doing much to their tele bridges, except perhaps adding a humbucker rout or using saddles that are individually adjustable. In this respect, the Strat seems to give far more choices… if we are talking about mods that are practical to do on stock instruments. With a Warmoth model pretty much anything is fair game with either.

 

[Chistopher]

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The giant elephant in the room is the tremolo system. Strats allow the user to choose between a hardtail and a tremolo model, whereas a Tele normally will fit a Tele bridge only. This might have to do with tradition, but I have seen far more people switch out the hardtails on a Strat than a Tele. Tremolos are another matter: here, a Tele would require significant re-routing to even be part of the game. One might argue that this is comparing apples to oranges, but I don't really see people doing much to their tele bridges, except perhaps adding a humbucker rout or using saddles that are individually adjustable. In this respect, the Strat seems to give far more choices… if we are talking about mods that are practical to do on stock instruments. With a Warmoth model pretty much anything is fair game with either.

The Strat is definitely easier to mod, but if you have skill the Tele offers more variety. Tele versus Strat is also a question of whether you value versatility or simplicity more.

 

[Jacew]

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Strat is not easier to modify. I can change the wiring of a tele all day long and never loosen the strings. If I need to change the pickups, Strats and Teles are about the same difficulty.

What's the problem in that? I just loosen them enough so I can slip the pickguard off under the strings.

I only change strings when doing modding, when they're so old they would need a change anyway.

 

[Silence Kid]

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What's the problem in that? I just loosen them enough so I can slip the pickguard off under the strings.

I only change strings when doing modding, when they're so old they would need a change anyway.

It's not a "problem." It is "annoying."

 

[Sirion]

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The Strat is definitely easier to mod, but if you have skill the Tele offers more variety.

Does it? How so? I'd be very interested to hear which mods, 'if you have the skill', can be done on a Tele but not on a Strat. To me it seems like both can do pretty much the same things, but that the strat is a much better point of departure for any type of mod where one wants something else than the Tele bridge, or something else than a S-S or H-S setup.

 

[Sirion]

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Strat is not easier to modify. I can change the wiring of a tele all day long and never loosen the strings. If I need to change the pickups, Strats and Teles are about the same difficulty.

It depends how much you want to modify it. Try to make a Tele S-S-S, with two sets of volume and tone knobs, and you would have to rout space for a pickup and for more electronics, and find a new cover that fits the latter; on a Strat, you would simply have to drill a hole through the pickguard.

The more exotic stuff you want, the more the Tele is going to show its limitations.

 

[Chistopher]

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Does it? How so? I'd be very interested to hear which mods, 'if you have the skill', can be done on a Tele but not on a Strat. To me it seems like both can do pretty much the same things, but that the strat is a much better point of departure for any type of mod where one wants something else than the Tele bridge, or something else than a S-S or H-S setup.

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[CharlieW06]

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Strat. Cuz Jeff Beck