Fender Big Dipper pickups

walters

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Newly designed Big Dipper single coil pickups were designed for John's modern tastes, which accentuate the bass and treble frequencies while softening the mid-range, offering the unique tones found in Mayer's playing
with scooped mid-range voicing


How do u wind a pickup to have scooped midrange voicing please?

How did they get a pickup to have scooped midrange?
 
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Just by eyeballin' them, I can tell you that they are very close to the stagger on my CS 57/62's and they appear to have alnico V poles.

They feel somewhat underwound as well.

They sound kind of flat and dead. Like I said, they kind of suck.
 
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V poles? The pole pieces are shaped like a V? or the magnet it shaped like a V?
 
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walters said:
Rev u do fender?

Or u wind for fender?

Hi Walt,

Nope I worked at Lace ( Fender Lace Sensors) Pickups

I wind here at home for fun mostly and I help others!
 
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read the GP issue with mayer on the cover in it he does mention he likes WEAK Pickups -- so there ya go!
Those Dippers were based on the 6.5K Texas set so -- they're going to be lower the that..
 
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Thanks Rev

but how they get that scooped mid-range out of a pickup?

Different Scattered windings produces different filter effects i heard

Rev how many different Scattered windings do u know ?
you told me that different fender ladies at the factor had different
scattered styles and patterns how many do u know?

Is there a Way u makes these pickups with different scattered patterns/windings/styles to buy from u ?
 
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walters said:
Thanks Rev

but how they get that scooped mid-range out of a pickup?

Different Scattered windings produces different filter effects i heard

Rev how many different Scattered windings do u know ?
you told me that different fender ladies at the factor had different
scattered styles and patterns how many do u know?

Is there a Way u makes these pickups with different scattered patterns/windings/styles to buy from u ?
Ya better watch out there Rev pretty soon walters might just get enough info. out of you to put you out of business lol :)
 
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Nope i don't want to copy the scattered design that would be hard to do even if i had the pickups to reverse engineer it but i am curious to know the concepts on it or to have different scattered windings for each of my strats would be cool
 
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Rev or a pickup designer would have to show me in person how to scattered wind these special pickups for me to really learn the tricks of it
 
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but how they get that scooped mid-range out of a pickup?

Thats just Marketing -- ya can't leave the bass and the highs intact and dump the mids..--
John is using two 100 watt custom amps with the scooped mids and a fender amp sets between those two and that adds the mid sound he likes--basicially hes using Weak DC pups.

He would have to raise the bass side of the pup up under the strings to add bass and keep the other side away from the strings.

the amps and FX would have to do the rest-

You simply cannot pull the mids out of a single coil and leave behind the bass cause the bass is going to go too-- ..

It was a marketing genuis that was suggesting his sound is that of scopped mid's "Big Dippers" lalalalla! and so forth -- but in the real world its just low DC's doin the job and a pickup height adjsutment and amps doing the rest.

Marketing Genuises -- forget some of us talk on the internet -- and we figure out every nook and cranny there is-- and they think they can create new terms for pickups/amps/guitars.. that arent nessarally ture --
I see it all over the map!

John wants to be known for his scooped sound -- making guys think if they buy this guitar with Big Dippers then they too will have it-- is partially true -- but not completely.
 
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I'm going to have to bail out from so much PC time latley -- I am falling behind in my work-- setting in front of this thing talking by pushing down a series of half inch square buttons to form words-- is really robbing away my time--

KICK me OUT for a week--

bye-bye!
Loginig off
Rev.
 
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