Fender Clapton

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hi
i don't know if you have this guitar

but in the video with Eric, the sounds is as fat a LP-PRS

and even better ! fatter

i read that the EC boost gives more power-fat sound than a EMG 85 !
i talk about the volume

so, my question is : with the stock pickups
will it be enough for
harmonics-heavy metal like a sh4 and all kinds of musics or no
we should add something like a sh4 and a vibrato too ?
 
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I just got rid of my Clapton strat- with lace sensors. The midrange booster is extremely powerful and wasn't compatable with the high gain of my 5150 III. It's better suited to lower gain amps. It's too fat for metal
 
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there are two boosts in the clapton system. an always on preamp boost and the adjustable mid boost. the mid boost isnt really suited to tight metal riffing but could be used for thick solos
 
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there are two boosts in the clapton system. an always on preamp boost and the adjustable mid boost. the mid boost isnt really suited to tight metal riffing but could be used for thick solos

Agreed; I had a Custom Shop Strat with Floyd Rose, Original Lace Sensors and the Clapton Electronics and it sounded awesome and thick/fat through my clean channel running a NS-2/Keeley TS-9 or Keeley SD-1/Keeley Midnight Zone or Ibanez MT-9 through a '78 Marshall 50W 2104 JMP 2x12 with Celestion Greenbacks.
 
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2 boosts?
no
just a 25 db boost + a tbx = one boost :)

i don't play metal
my licks are between blues and Sambora with Bon jovi with his strat
or Europe and John Neurom

and if we don't need a humbucker for sustain, harmonics i would say
ok
i will buy this guitar
event if there is a custom shop version

the other problem is the blocked vibrato
it's good to have a good vibrato like jeff Beck has
 
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It actually has 2 boosts- there's a 12 db clean boost that's always active-giving the singles more output than a humbucker. Then on top of that is the 12 db midrange boost, which you control with the rear tone pot
 
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I can't imagine a Clapton strat being suited for 80s hard rock. I think you'd be better off with something that has a humbucker than to worry about boosts and stuff- the 80s hard rock sound is pretty easy. If you were going into vintage low wattage tube amps, and played like Clapton, then I can see where his model would be perfect.
 
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you can unblock the trem on the clapton strat.

2 boosts?
no
just a 25 db boost + a tbx = one boost

the tbx tone control is just tone control with a stacked 250/1meg pot, i suggest replacing the 82k resistor with a 220k for better tone. even when the mid boost is off there is a noticeable volume bump compared to the same pups without the active circuitry. if you look at the wiring the output of the 5 way switch goes to the pc board then to the 1meg volume control then to the mid boost. i know all the literature says its a 25db mid boost but there is an always on preamp boost built into the circuit as well. the whole thing is based on the old fender mdx circuit from the elite guitars back in the 80's. its not a bad thing at all, just something to be aware of. i love my strat with the boost circuit with duncan classic stack+ neck and middle with vintage hot stack bridge. i just use a standard tone control though. i dont like the tbx.
 
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i have never read something like 12+12= 24: ) not 25

if it's only a 12b boost ? my pedal is a 30 db boost

i have a charvel san dimas too but it's different = warm tones but not bright like a strat
and from Europe to Yngwie, a lof of shredders have vintage strat with new fs 1 dimarzio pickups or SD fury
so it's possible

except Sambora who had a PAF PRO in the bridge position

the problem with the charvel san dimas is it really does not sound like a Clapton ' s model for the blues
 
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i have never read something like 12+12= 24: ) not 25

if it's only a 12b boost ? my pedal is a 30 db boost

i have a charvel san dimas too but it's different = warm tones but not bright like a strat
and from Europe to Yngwie, a lof of shredders have vintage strat with new fs 1 dimarzio pickups or SD fury
so it's possible

except Sambora who had a PAF PRO in the bridge position

the problem with the charvel san dimas is it really does not sound like a Clapton ' s model for the blues

I've had a real hard time following your line of conversation from the OP to this and understanding what you are trying to do - but after several readings, let me see if I have this right:

It sounds like you are trying to get a shred-stick metal guitar that is capable of doing Clapton blues once in a while, correct? I don't think that's simply a question of balancing volume levels, as stated in the OP and all this discussion of boosts.

I think you would be better off with a nice shred stick that does the metal just how you want, but with hot single-coil middle or neck single-coil pickup in there that cleans up well and has a reasonably transparent tone control that can roll off a bit of top end or warm up the pickup as needed for bluesy sounds. Trying to go the other way and get a Clapton blues stick to do metal is like swimming against the incoming tide in a bad way. But that's just IMHO.
 
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yeah you are right !

the clapton model is a dream for me
like the Sambora model which would be perfection with a strat : a lot of sustain too

i don't know if i like the radius but i like the sounds

and there are not a lot of models which sound strat-blues- with good vibrato (jeff beck) and heavy metal for fast licks

that's all

and i would prefer the stock pickups
 
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Just buy an HSS Suhr classic. There. Blues to country to balls out metal, a comfortable neck and a great vibrato.

Here: soft, non-metal music




Here: metal



Here: Yngwie metal

 
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You can buy (or build) the Clapton boost into any guitar, so just get any guitar with the pickups you like. You can even get a MIM Fender, and slowly upgrade it. What I don't like about the Clapton Strats is the weird neck.
 
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