Fender Concert amps
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the guy who invented fire
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Re: Fender Concert amps
1963 was a transition year for the Fender Concert, they went from the Brown tolex/brown face to the black tolex/black face and the circut from one to the other is ery different. The started the Brown Concert in 1959 and there wsa never a Blond Concert that I know of...
The Brown Concert was a 2 channel (one normal, one with vibrato), 4x10, no reverb, 40 watt, SS rectified Fender Combo amp. The Brown tolex amps are not as clean and chimey as a BF but they are not as raw as a Tweed either...the Brown COncert sort of bridges the gap between a 4x10 Tweed bassman and a BF Super Reverb.
The best part about the 4x10 brown Concert is the vibrato circut, which unlike a BF Vibrato (which is really a mis named tremolo circut) it really is a a true vibrato...there is a mild pitch shift to the circut and it sounds amazing! It is my fav vib circut ever but it uses two and a half 12AX7's to work and Leo did away with that circut to be able to have reverb without having to use 9 or 10 preamp tubes.
Im pretty sure the amp you saw was a Brown Concert and you're right...they are great amps! One of the other Fenders I have to have one day!
1963 was a transition year for the Fender Concert, they went from the Brown tolex/brown face to the black tolex/black face and the circut from one to the other is ery different. The started the Brown Concert in 1959 and there wsa never a Blond Concert that I know of...
The Brown Concert was a 2 channel (one normal, one with vibrato), 4x10, no reverb, 40 watt, SS rectified Fender Combo amp. The Brown tolex amps are not as clean and chimey as a BF but they are not as raw as a Tweed either...the Brown COncert sort of bridges the gap between a 4x10 Tweed bassman and a BF Super Reverb.
The best part about the 4x10 brown Concert is the vibrato circut, which unlike a BF Vibrato (which is really a mis named tremolo circut) it really is a a true vibrato...there is a mild pitch shift to the circut and it sounds amazing! It is my fav vib circut ever but it uses two and a half 12AX7's to work and Leo did away with that circut to be able to have reverb without having to use 9 or 10 preamp tubes.
Im pretty sure the amp you saw was a Brown Concert and you're right...they are great amps! One of the other Fenders I have to have one day!
Re: Fender Concert amps
You are right it was Brown... Thanks so much for the info.... it sounded great.... i went right up to the stage and was hearing it off the stage as the PA was set really high in the air and when you were standing at the stage it was hard to hear vocals besides the monitors at the feet of the musicians... But ya the Concert is now one of the amps i'd love to own!!!! Good to know it is a 4x10.... What type of speakers were in them, Jensons?.
Does using an old Fender Reverb unit act as a mild OD too?
You are right it was Brown... Thanks so much for the info.... it sounded great.... i went right up to the stage and was hearing it off the stage as the PA was set really high in the air and when you were standing at the stage it was hard to hear vocals besides the monitors at the feet of the musicians... But ya the Concert is now one of the amps i'd love to own!!!! Good to know it is a 4x10.... What type of speakers were in them, Jensons?.
Does using an old Fender Reverb unit act as a mild OD too?
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Fender Concert amps
The speakers changed a lot from 59 to 63...the earliest ones had Jensen P10R's then they switched to Jensen P10Q's then Jensen C10R's or Oxford 10K5's...if that one was a 63 it more than likely (if it was stock) had the Jensen C10R's or Oxford 10K5's.
As for the reverb...you can set them up and get a bit of extra gain out of it that could help push the amp into a nice OD tone...
The speakers changed a lot from 59 to 63...the earliest ones had Jensen P10R's then they switched to Jensen P10Q's then Jensen C10R's or Oxford 10K5's...if that one was a 63 it more than likely (if it was stock) had the Jensen C10R's or Oxford 10K5's.
As for the reverb...you can set them up and get a bit of extra gain out of it that could help push the amp into a nice OD tone...
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Re: Fender Concert amps
Used to play through a pair of brown Concerts back in the early 70's. Cool amps! The best sounding ones had jensen P10Q speakers. Lew
Used to play through a pair of brown Concerts back in the early 70's. Cool amps! The best sounding ones had jensen P10Q speakers. Lew
the guy who invented fire
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Re: Fender Concert amps
Bruce mentioned to me once that you used to use one...he failed to mention you used 2!
Im so jealous...I know you dig the Tweeds and the BF Fender (as do I) but I also love the Brown amps...specifically the 4x10 Concert and the 2x10 Vibroverb...not to mention a Brown 2x10 Super!
Bruce mentioned to me once that you used to use one...he failed to mention you used 2!
Im so jealous...I know you dig the Tweeds and the BF Fender (as do I) but I also love the Brown amps...specifically the 4x10 Concert and the 2x10 Vibroverb...not to mention a Brown 2x10 Super!
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Lewguitar
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Re: Fender Concert amps
Yep: TWO. I had a matching pair of them for a while.
I used to plug my '57 Strat into an Echoplex and then use a Y cord to play through two.
I also used to sit one on a 4 x 12 Marshall bottem and play through all 8 speakers.
16 ohm cabinet and 2 ohm combo amp (4 8 ohm 10's in parallel)...don't know what the speaker load was, but the trannie wanted to see 2 ohms.
Never blew it up or anything though.
I'd be alot more careful these days...in those days I didn't know much about impedence and such.
Yep: TWO. I had a matching pair of them for a while.
I used to plug my '57 Strat into an Echoplex and then use a Y cord to play through two.
I also used to sit one on a 4 x 12 Marshall bottem and play through all 8 speakers.
16 ohm cabinet and 2 ohm combo amp (4 8 ohm 10's in parallel)...don't know what the speaker load was, but the trannie wanted to see 2 ohms.
Never blew it up or anything though.
I'd be alot more careful these days...in those days I didn't know much about impedence and such.
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: Fender Concert amps
Not sure about adding the Marshall cab but I'll tell ya what...I'd play a Strat into a echoplxe and a pair of Brown Concerts right this minute...thats a killer rig!
Not sure about adding the Marshall cab but I'll tell ya what...I'd play a Strat into a echoplxe and a pair of Brown Concerts right this minute...thats a killer rig!
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Lewguitar
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Re: Fender Concert amps
Yep...it was fun all right. There's other amps I like better these days but the Concerts were very cool at the time.
Back then you could buy 'em cheap too. I still have the Echoplex, BTW. Nothing sounds quite as organic...a little noisy though. Lew
the guy who invented fire said:
Yep...it was fun all right. There's other amps I like better these days but the Concerts were very cool at the time.
Back then you could buy 'em cheap too. I still have the Echoplex, BTW. Nothing sounds quite as organic...a little noisy though. Lew
the guy who invented fire
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Re: Fender Concert amps
Im sure it was a blast...in more than one way!
I really want one of those pitch shift vib Fenders...I was never a high fan of 4x10 amps for several reasons but I bet those things are pretty loud! I have sort of been on the look out for a decent Echoplex too...they just cost so much these days and cost even more to keep going!
Im sure it was a blast...in more than one way!
I really want one of those pitch shift vib Fenders...I was never a high fan of 4x10 amps for several reasons but I bet those things are pretty loud! I have sort of been on the look out for a decent Echoplex too...they just cost so much these days and cost even more to keep going!
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Re: Fender Concert amps
Lew...you ever spend any time with any of the other Brown fenders...Vibroverb, Super, Pro, Bandmaster???
Lew...you ever spend any time with any of the other Brown fenders...Vibroverb, Super, Pro, Bandmaster???
Re: Fender Concert amps
cool..... reason i ask about the Reverb used for more gain as this guy seemed to only have a Strat, a Cord, a Boss Tuner pedal, the Reverb unit and the Concert amp going.... he had a nice mild but still rock crunchy tone... and i didn't see any OD or fuzz boxes anywhere and i was 5 feet away
the guy who invented fire said:
cool..... reason i ask about the Reverb used for more gain as this guy seemed to only have a Strat, a Cord, a Boss Tuner pedal, the Reverb unit and the Concert amp going.... he had a nice mild but still rock crunchy tone... and i didn't see any OD or fuzz boxes anywhere and i was 5 feet away
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