Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

[thunderlung]

How do these do with OD pedals at apartment levels? Any experience?

 

[jeremy]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

they sound pretty and clean at low volume and take pedals well

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

They take pedals very well. I nearly bought one last year when I was looking for a bigger amp as a clean platform to use pedals with.

 

[Bludave]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

At low volumes they are very clean, but they really don't have a lot of headroom. Once the volume gets to about 4 or 5 they start to break up. Once the volume is over 7 they tend to get muddy. If your intentions are to run the volume no higher than 5 they will work fine. Great with pedals.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

The DR is my very favorite Fender amp and I have two of the originals. There's three things that need to be addressed, IMO, with all Deluxe Reverbs if you want to get a modern Marshall-esque kind of overdrive out of them:

1. The .1 and .047 tone capicitors in the tone stack do not allow enough mids and the resonance is not quite right for rock/blues overdrive tones so they need to be replaced with a pair .022 mfd caps to get more of a Marshall or tweed Bassman kind of overdrive. I like Sprague Orange Drops if the amp has a dull tone and needs some brightening or Mallory 150's if the amp has a brighter tone and I want to warm it up a little. Both are great sounding caps. Or THIS is an application for Hovland Oil and Foil caps that makes sense and where you can hear a difference...go for the Hovlands if you want to be sure you're getting the best tone possible. I don't think Hovlands do much in a guitar's tone circuit but in an amp you'll probably hear the difference.

2. The 6.8K midrange resistor soldered on the back of the bass control needs to be changed for more mids. I've used as high a value as 10K with great results.

3. The speaker needs to be a Celestion and I'd recommend the G12H-30.

Those are simple mods and will greatly improve the tone of the DR for modern rock styles.

 

[GuitarStv]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

At low volumes they are very clean, but they really don't have a lot of headroom. Once the volume gets to about 4 or 5 they start to break up. Once the volume is over 7 they tend to get muddy. If your intentions are to run the volume no higher than 5 they will work fine. Great with pedals.

I was thinking of the Hot Rod Deluxe . . . my mistake.

 

[thunderlung]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

The DR is my very favorite Fender amp and I have two of the originals. There's three things that need to be addressed, IMO, with all Deluxe Reverbs if you want to get a modern Marshall-esque kind of overdrive out of them:

1. The .1 and .047 tone capicitors in the tone stack do not allow enough mids and the resonance is not quite right for rock/blues overdrive tones so they need to be replaced with a pair .022 mfd caps to get more of a Marshall or tweed Bassman kind of overdrive. I like Sprague Orange Drops if the amp has a dull tone and needs some brightening or Mallory 150's if the amp has a brighter tone and I want to warm it up a little. Both are great sounding caps. Or THIS is an application for Hovland Oil and Foil caps that makes sense and where you can hear a difference...go for the Hovlands if you want to be sure you're getting the best tone possible. I don't think Hovlands do much in a guitar's tone circuit but in an amp you'll probably hear the difference.

2. The 6.8K midrange resistor soldered on the back of the bass control needs to be changed for more mids. I've used as high a value as 10K with great results.

3. The speaker needs to be a Celestion and I'd recommend the G12H-30.

Those are simple mods and will greatly improve the tone of the DR for modern rock styles.

Wow. This is heavy stuff. I have a Marshall DSL401 so I am just looking for variety. Something Fenderish(6V6) just to switch it up a bit for sh.ts and giggles. Is there a better 6v6 option that doesn't need mods and works nice with/without pedals at apt. volumes?

I do sincerely appreciate all input....I don't buy amps too often so I really want the right one.

ps- The wife and I are going out for Jumbalaya(sp?) tonight(and beers)....mmmmmm, jumbalaya.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

Wow. This is heavy stuff. I have a Marshall DSL401 so I am just looking for variety. Something Fenderish(6V6) just to switch it up a bit for sh.ts and giggles. Is there a better 6v6 option that doesn't need mods and works nice with/without pedals at apt. volumes?

I do sincerely appreciate all input....I don't buy amps too often so I really want the right one.

ps- The wife and I are going out for Jumbalaya(sp?) tonight(and beers)....mmmmmm, jumbalaya.

The DR doesn't need mods to sound great...but those simple mods I mentioned will give it a more modern rock lead tone. The DR is a great amp stock...and a greater amp with some mods. Lew

 

[midnite_man]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

At low volumes they are very clean, but they really don't have a lot of headroom. Once the volume gets to about 4 or 5 they start to break up. Once the volume is over 7 they tend to get muddy. If your intentions are to run the volume no higher than 5 they will work fine. Great with pedals.

Unless you have some sort of power attenuator you'll never run a DRRI at 5 in an apartment. Mine tops out at about 4, and yes, at 7 the tubes will be simmerin' pretty good but I have very rarely pushed any of my amps that far for any period of time.
You could play the DRRI at around 1 1/2 to 2 with OD or dist. pedals and probably be okay with your neighbors. 22 watts may not sound like much, but this amp is pretty bright and will fill any medium to large sized room easily. Mine was so bright I did a simple mod that's well known amongst Fender DR enthusiasts which was simply clipping a capacitor (the C10 cap).
You may want to consider a Blues Junior for your apartment situation, but definitely go to a store and play both to determine what will work best for you.

 

[midnite_man]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

The DR is my very favorite Fender amp and I have two of the originals. There's three things that need to be addressed, IMO, with all Deluxe Reverbs if you want to get a modern Marshall-esque kind of overdrive out of them:

1. The .1 and .047 tone capicitors in the tone stack do not allow enough mids and the resonance is not quite right for rock/blues overdrive tones so they need to be replaced with a pair .022 mfd caps to get more of a Marshall or tweed Bassman kind of overdrive. I like Sprague Orange Drops if the amp has a dull tone and needs some brightening or Mallory 150's if the amp has a brighter tone and I want to warm it up a little. Both are great sounding caps. Or THIS is an application for Hovland Oil and Foil caps that makes sense and where you can hear a difference...go for the Hovlands if you want to be sure you're getting the best tone possible. I don't think Hovlands do much in a guitar's tone circuit but in an amp you'll probably hear the difference.

2. The 6.8K midrange resistor soldered on the back of the bass control needs to be changed for more mids. I've used as high a value as 10K with great results.

3. The speaker needs to be a Celestion and I'd recommend the G12H-30.

Those are simple mods and will greatly improve the tone of the DR for modern rock styles.

Lew,
Did putting in the Celestion G12H-30 take a little more of the edge off the brightness factor?

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

Lew,
Did putting in the Celestion G12H-30 take a little more of the edge off the brightness factor?

Compared to what? Compared to some other Celestions, like the Vintage 30, the G12H30 seems thicker and deeper and not as bright. My experieince with DR's is limited to the originals so I don't have much experience with the speaker Fender is installing these days...probably some kind of Eminence I would guess. Lew

 

[Cory_Dylan]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

Lew,
Did putting in the Celestion G12H-30 take a little more of the edge off the brightness factor?

They still put Jensens in the Deluxe Reverb. C12k according to Fender. I don't know how that compares to the C12n.

Generally if you swap a Jensen with a Celestion, especially the G12h you're going to lose some brightness and gain a little more British tone. Like Lew said the Celestion G12h is a much deeper and thicker sounding speaker than a Jensen for sure. You will probably also get later speaker distortion.

 

[Lewguitar]

Re: Fender Deluxe Reverb Reissue

They still put Jensens in the Deluxe Reverb. C12k according to Fender. I don't know how that compares to the C12n.

Generally if you swap a Jensen with a Celestion, especially the G12h you're going to lose some brightness and gain a little more British tone. Like Lew said the Celestion G12h is a much deeper and thicker sounding speaker than a Jensen for sure. You will probably also get later speaker distortion.

The amp will sound louder and you'll have a little more headroom too because the Celestion is louder and more efficient. I can gig with my DR's...but stock DR's would fart out at the higher volumes I can set mine at. Lew