Matt42
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
I hadn't heard that. That's hilarious.
I hadn't heard that. That's hilarious.
Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
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FuseG4
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
Anxious to hear your comparison.
I've owned the Super Champ XD and the DRRI and definitely there's a big difference, the SCXD sounded more middy, boxy, and flabby, and the DRRI was clean, clear, and had nice bass, but I never owned them both at the same time. Both sounded pretty dang good when they were in their own forte.
I currently own a Champion 20 and the most convincing model on it is the tweed champ followed by the princeton. My take is that cabinet and speaker matter a LOT. If I'd gone with the Champion 40 I have no doubt the Deluxe Reverb model would be more on point, and I feel like the Champion 100 was better at emulating a smaller cab and speaker sound but trying to get the big amp sounds from the smaller stuff is not gonna happen.
Anxious to hear your comparison.
I've owned the Super Champ XD and the DRRI and definitely there's a big difference, the SCXD sounded more middy, boxy, and flabby, and the DRRI was clean, clear, and had nice bass, but I never owned them both at the same time. Both sounded pretty dang good when they were in their own forte.
I currently own a Champion 20 and the most convincing model on it is the tweed champ followed by the princeton. My take is that cabinet and speaker matter a LOT. If I'd gone with the Champion 40 I have no doubt the Deluxe Reverb model would be more on point, and I feel like the Champion 100 was better at emulating a smaller cab and speaker sound but trying to get the big amp sounds from the smaller stuff is not gonna happen.
Inkstained
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
Saw the OP's celebration of this amp on The Gear Page. Good to see he's spreading the joy over here, too.
I also have the wine red-alnico Jensen DRRI. It oozes Fenderosity by the bucketful and cures cancer when it's off, to boot.
Saw the OP's celebration of this amp on The Gear Page. Good to see he's spreading the joy over here, too.
I also have the wine red-alnico Jensen DRRI. It oozes Fenderosity by the bucketful and cures cancer when it's off, to boot.
Red_Label
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
I spent about an hour with the SC XD FSR last night and it was decent. Definitely doesn't stand up to the DRRI. But I didn't have a chance to use the software and tweak the mids yet. So I'm withholding final judgement until I've been able to do that. Doesn't have that breaking glass Fender thing going. Didn't care for the drive channel models at all. Typical of Fender not to be able to do crunch tones without farting and mushing them up. So I used my Friedman BE-OD into the clean channel for crunch and that was better.
Speaking of Freidman... I just arranged a trade of my Smallbox for a Dirty Shirley on TGP today. Between the Shirley and the DRRI... I will have as eargasmic of a rig as any IMO. Just never fully bonded with my Smallbox. Dig the hell out of the Mini Shirleys that I've paid played.
I spent about an hour with the SC XD FSR last night and it was decent. Definitely doesn't stand up to the DRRI. But I didn't have a chance to use the software and tweak the mids yet. So I'm withholding final judgement until I've been able to do that. Doesn't have that breaking glass Fender thing going. Didn't care for the drive channel models at all. Typical of Fender not to be able to do crunch tones without farting and mushing them up. So I used my Friedman BE-OD into the clean channel for crunch and that was better.
Speaking of Freidman... I just arranged a trade of my Smallbox for a Dirty Shirley on TGP today. Between the Shirley and the DRRI... I will have as eargasmic of a rig as any IMO. Just never fully bonded with my Smallbox. Dig the hell out of the Mini Shirleys that I've paid played.
Red_Label
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
Update: I installed the Fender Fuse software last night and did some more tweaking on the Super Champ X2. Definitely able to get it closer to the DRRI with the added features there. No, it's still not even fit to shine the DRRI's shoes. But it's much closer to being bearable for daily practice, when compared to the DRRI. I may swap out the 10" Greenback speaker, as it doesn't have pristine highs that I'm getting from the DRRI. I need to do some research on 10" speaker options. I've never really educated myself on what's out there for those, as I've never been a fan of 10" speakers because of their lack of bottom end.
Update: I installed the Fender Fuse software last night and did some more tweaking on the Super Champ X2. Definitely able to get it closer to the DRRI with the added features there. No, it's still not even fit to shine the DRRI's shoes. But it's much closer to being bearable for daily practice, when compared to the DRRI. I may swap out the 10" Greenback speaker, as it doesn't have pristine highs that I'm getting from the DRRI. I need to do some research on 10" speaker options. I've never really educated myself on what's out there for those, as I've never been a fan of 10" speakers because of their lack of bottom end.
Red_Label
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
Thanks Jeremy. I'll check those out. I like thump, punch, AND pristine in my speakers. Not always the easiest task to meet all of those requirements.
Thanks Jeremy. I'll check those out. I like thump, punch, AND pristine in my speakers. Not always the easiest task to meet all of those requirements.
Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
before I stick with the speaker in a Fender amp I do the old E9 chord test. I strum it hard on the guitar I am gunna be using it with. I find the right treble tone and then strum it hard on mid volume. If it "ice picks" on the upper ring tone I know the speaker cant handle the "sweet spot" tone of the amp when pushed. People always say.......well then, just decrease the treble..... but this is a losing battle because you find yourself constantly adjusting the amps controls back and forth instead of finding the right speaker that fits the amps tone at your favorite clean tone setting. The right speaker should allow for the Fender amp to "ring or chime" but cut off the "ice picky" top end naturally so it doesn't suddenly pop out of nowhere when your playing somewhere. At that point the guitars tone controls can then control frequency within the sweet spot so you can adjust on the fly. To me, the Cannibus Rex fattens the tone but also cuts off most all of the "Ice Picky" unwanted high frequency that many Eminence or Jensen speakers seem to accentuate. if you have a very hard strum or pick attack then at that point a Celestion green back will naturally roll off even more high end "ice pick" tone. if you have a very soft pick attack you may need a Jenson type speaker to really pick up the subtle sound of your strum or soft pick attack. I just found with blues when your "rakeing" or "sweeping" or picking and bending hard on a note that its really easy to get an "ice pick" tone out of your amp if your speaker doesn't naturally roll off some of the unwanted highs. Country guys on the other hand may want that extra twang and adjust their playing style with those Tele's accordingly. The high end frequency with that amps 6v6 tubes is softer then say a EL84 or a 6l6. From my experience depending on your pick attack, a Cannibus Rex with even a ceramic single coil on a maple neck strat should roll off most all the "Ice picky" highs but leave all the Chimey goodness intact
before I stick with the speaker in a Fender amp I do the old E9 chord test. I strum it hard on the guitar I am gunna be using it with. I find the right treble tone and then strum it hard on mid volume. If it "ice picks" on the upper ring tone I know the speaker cant handle the "sweet spot" tone of the amp when pushed. People always say.......well then, just decrease the treble..... but this is a losing battle because you find yourself constantly adjusting the amps controls back and forth instead of finding the right speaker that fits the amps tone at your favorite clean tone setting. The right speaker should allow for the Fender amp to "ring or chime" but cut off the "ice picky" top end naturally so it doesn't suddenly pop out of nowhere when your playing somewhere. At that point the guitars tone controls can then control frequency within the sweet spot so you can adjust on the fly. To me, the Cannibus Rex fattens the tone but also cuts off most all of the "Ice Picky" unwanted high frequency that many Eminence or Jensen speakers seem to accentuate. if you have a very hard strum or pick attack then at that point a Celestion green back will naturally roll off even more high end "ice pick" tone. if you have a very soft pick attack you may need a Jenson type speaker to really pick up the subtle sound of your strum or soft pick attack. I just found with blues when your "rakeing" or "sweeping" or picking and bending hard on a note that its really easy to get an "ice pick" tone out of your amp if your speaker doesn't naturally roll off some of the unwanted highs. Country guys on the other hand may want that extra twang and adjust their playing style with those Tele's accordingly. The high end frequency with that amps 6v6 tubes is softer then say a EL84 or a 6l6. From my experience depending on your pick attack, a Cannibus Rex with even a ceramic single coil on a maple neck strat should roll off most all the "Ice picky" highs but leave all the Chimey goodness intact
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Red_Label
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Re: Fender DRRI incoming... curious about speakers...
Good info. Thanks for that.
So far, I'm digging the Jensen that came in it. It does grit-up a bit early for my taste... but when I kick the OD pedal in it's very tasty and brown. I fear that if I were to get too pristine a speaker for cleans, then the OD tones would be harsh. Perhaps my desire for a super clean speaker at high volumes would increase if I got another country gig. But for now... it's working well.
Good info. Thanks for that.
So far, I'm digging the Jensen that came in it. It does grit-up a bit early for my taste... but when I kick the OD pedal in it's very tasty and brown. I fear that if I were to get too pristine a speaker for cleans, then the OD tones would be harsh. Perhaps my desire for a super clean speaker at high volumes would increase if I got another country gig. But for now... it's working well.
