Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Please.

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Re: Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Ple

Roughcast.

I have a set mahogany neck with a 22-fret rosewood fingerboard in a maple-capped double cutaway mahogany body with a trem-spaced hard tail and 25" scale. I don't find the guitar to be all that finicky with pickups.

It had a Screamin Demon Bridge/Full Shred Neck with lots of wiring options. The Demon went into an HSS guitar. I'm thinking Pegasus/Sentient as the next set to go in.
 
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Re: Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Ple

Re: Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Ple

A PRS is a modified Gibson, and that's what it sounds like. I don't see why specialty pickups would ever be necessary. I mix a band regularly that features a guitar player who brings a Les Paul and a PRS, both of which have been modded with the same Dimarzio pickups (not sure which ones). And once you get through the mic, the miles of cable, the desk, the crossovers, the amps, and the FOH speakers I sure as hell can't hear any difference when he switches guitars. Not even a little bit... and I am listening critically.
 
Re: Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Ple

Re: Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Ple

Hmmm... quite a subjective thing, for sure. One PUP not mentioned is the 59/Custom - that seems like it would be a slam dunk?
That's exactly the combination I have in my PRS SE Standard. The Custom is really great for tight rhythm guitar. It can be a little susceptible to "ice picking" if it is adjusted too close to the strings but apart from that it's great. The 59 sounds really smooth for lead guitar, but I have found it a little bit too boomy and muddy so I swapped the stock A5 magnet with a roughcast A4. Result: Awesomeness.
 
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Re: Fender & Gibson are covered. How about some PRS specific custom shop pickups? Ple

From having owned many PRSi and Gibsons, I feel that the 25" scale length yields more of a difference in playing feel rather than sound. The overall recipe of set-neck mahogany guitar with rosewood fretboard and humbuckers puts the typical PRS pretty much in the Gibson tone camp. My SE Santana, which has a 24.5" scale length and maple top, is sonically pretty close to a Les Paul.

I just don't think the typical PRS is so exotic of a beast as to require a specialized pickup. In my mind, PRS guitars are pretty much Gibsons with design flaws fixed and some brand-specific quirks (25" scale length, 10" radius, etc.).

I've never tried a PRS, let alone owned one, so largely just speculating on whether that slight bit of difference turns a pup from sweet to sour. From what you've said, it sounds like it's too small a difference anyway :)
 
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That's exactly the combination I have in my PRS SE Standard. The Custom is really great for tight rhythm guitar. It can be a little susceptible to "ice picking" if it is adjusted too close to the strings but apart from that it's great. The 59 sounds really smooth for lead guitar, but I have found it a little bit too boomy and muddy so I swapped the stock A5 magnet with a roughcast A4. Result: Awesomeness.

Sounds like you're talking two different pickups? I was talking about the 59/Custom Hybrid pickup

http://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/59custom-hybrid

It's very, very cool.


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I've never tried a PRS, let alone owned one, so largely just speculating on whether that slight bit of difference turns a pup from sweet to sour. From what you've said, it sounds like it's too small a difference anyway :)

Everything affects tone, in varying degrees. PRS 25" scale length *sometimes* yields ever-so-slightly more snap and clarity, and less brute force oomph than a Gibson 24.75" scale. But then you also get the SG bridge pickup being slightly closer to the bridge than with a Les Paul, which gives the SG less oomph. So it somehow makes sense to me that the typical PRS 25" scale guitar ends up sounding like an SG, despite not looking like one.

Shopping for SG vs. Les Paul, then, I would go for a bridge pickup with slightly more oomph. Maybe likewise with a PRS, especially if it has a trem.

It's like take away a little something here, add a little something over there. As one poster said above, once you go through many feet of cable and loud amplification and micing and mixing, you are probably not going to hear the difference anyway. There are definite small differences in feel/tone when it comes to the player laying hands on the guitar, and those are important in terms of inspiring the player.

But things like a Strat bridge pickup vs. humbucker or Marshall vs. Fender amp are more likely to contribute to differences that audiences can actually hear, vs. 0.25" of scale length with all other construction methods being same or similar.
 
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Everything affects tone, in varying degrees. PRS 25" scale length *sometimes* yields ever-so-slightly more snap and clarity, and less brute force oomph than a Gibson 24.75" scale. But then you also get the SG bridge pickup being slightly closer to the bridge than with a Les Paul, which gives the SG less oomph. So it somehow makes sense to me that the typical PRS 25" scale guitar ends up sounding like an SG, despite not looking like one.

Shopping for SG vs. Les Paul, then, I would go for a bridge pickup with slightly more oomph. Maybe likewise with a PRS, especially if it has a trem.

It's like take away a little something here, add a little something over there. As one poster said above, once you go through many feet of cable and loud amplification and micing and mixing, you are probably not going to hear the difference anyway. There are definite small differences in feel/tone when it comes to the player laying hands on the guitar, and those are important in terms of inspiring the player.

But things like a Strat bridge pickup vs. humbucker or Marshall vs. Fender amp are more likely to contribute to differences that audiences can actually hear, vs. 0.25" of scale length with all other construction methods being same or similar.

You nailed it man! There you go, Glorioso, shop for a humbucker with more mid-punch and output! I think that means stay away from "true PAF" designs because the original PAFs are very bright and scoopy sounding, you probably want something PAF-like but overwound for more mid muscle. Slash set? Custom Custom? Custom/59 Hybrid?
 
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Also the WLH comes into the equation
 
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You nailed it man! There you go, Glorioso, shop for a humbucker with more mid-punch and output! I think that means stay away from "true PAF" designs because the original PAFs are very bright and scoopy sounding, you probably want something PAF-like but overwound for more mid muscle. Slash set? Custom Custom? Custom/59 Hybrid?

'78 Model with RCUOA5's!
 
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I wanted to thank everyone for their input. I made a final decision and ordered from the Custom Shop an Antiquity '59 Neck with an A4 and an Antiquity JB with a UOA5. I think it will sound awesome in the PRS CU24 which is going to a 3 way switch instead of the 5 way.
 
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Let us know how they sound when they are installed!
 
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Well, they arrived today and will be installed in a few weeks. I am excited to hear these. Antiquity '59 Neck RC A4 and JB Bridge with Unoriented Roughcast A5





 
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There'll be a few here wondering how these sound too :)
 
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I can't comment on the JB as I've never been a fan, and no mag swap known to mankind could convince me otherwise. :)

However, I've had an Ant set which I made a lot of mag swaps with, and I can tell you right now, the A4 in the Ant neck is a thing of beauty. You're in for a treat, man, Seriously.

HTH,
 
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PRS has changed the voicing of their pickups over the years. Their pickups were brighter in the 1990s and have become hotter and darker to go with their metal endorsee guitars. They have settled on ceramic mags for their pickups, even the vintage styled McCartney guitars. Back in the day, they made guitars with alnico pickups and even Strat clones. I like the look of the new guitars, but hate the pickups. I played a pre-lawsuit Single Cut and it sounded much better than a recent one.
 
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I suppose the Custom Shop could consult with you about your specific problems with your PRS pickups. I don't know that you'd have to go with the Custom Shop, unless you can't find a stock pickup that does what you need. You just have to be able to voice what you need and what you are not getting, and what isn't available to you.
 
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Well, they arrived today and will be installed in a few weeks. I am excited to hear these. Antiquity '59 Neck RC A4 and JB Bridge with Unoriented Roughcast A5


look forward to hearing what you think of the new pups! should be a great sounding set
 
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PRS has...settled on ceramic mags for their pickups, even the vintage styled McCartney guitars.

I doubt this is true. First I've read about it if it is.

And that's McCarty. As in Ted McCarty, the head of Gibson in the 1950's who over saw the creation of some now classic guitars.

McCartney is a bass player. ;)
 
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