Fender SRV "Lenny" guitar
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ErikH
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Re: Fender SRV "Lenny" guitar
I saw a couple up close at the Arlington Guitar Show. Incredible looking pieces. Great craftsmenship. With the limited quantity of this one, it will be priced much higher than the signature SRV model (which I would still love to have. It's my favorite sig model Fender makes).
You've got to admit, that's a great story behind that guitar.
I saw a couple up close at the Arlington Guitar Show. Incredible looking pieces. Great craftsmenship. With the limited quantity of this one, it will be priced much higher than the signature SRV model (which I would still love to have. It's my favorite sig model Fender makes).
You've got to admit, that's a great story behind that guitar.
Rich_S
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I saw the ad for that in the latest GP. It's a nice story about the personal meaning a guitar can take on. It's also none of our business and I'm appalled that GC can have the unbridled greed to commercialize it. I'm even more appalled that Fender would go along with it - I thought their greed was in some way bridled.
It's sad that there are so many people out there who believe the path to tone is through buying some limited-edition re-creation of Stevie Ray's (or Jimi's, or Eddie's, or Randy's, or Dimebag's, or...; etc.) axe. Their time and money would be much better spent going through the 20 or 30 plain-jane Strats on the wall at GC and finding the one that they feel some connection with (and then taking it home and developing the relationship), rather than lusting after the one in the glass case that is no more than a water-color copy of the original.
I saw the ad for that in the latest GP. It's a nice story about the personal meaning a guitar can take on. It's also none of our business and I'm appalled that GC can have the unbridled greed to commercialize it. I'm even more appalled that Fender would go along with it - I thought their greed was in some way bridled.
It's sad that there are so many people out there who believe the path to tone is through buying some limited-edition re-creation of Stevie Ray's (or Jimi's, or Eddie's, or Randy's, or Dimebag's, or...; etc.) axe. Their time and money would be much better spent going through the 20 or 30 plain-jane Strats on the wall at GC and finding the one that they feel some connection with (and then taking it home and developing the relationship), rather than lusting after the one in the glass case that is no more than a water-color copy of the original.
Top Jimmy
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Re: Fender SRV "Lenny" guitar
^^^^^ Axe snob
Seriously though, why can't they have both? If you love Stevie and buying this makes you happy and you like to play it so what? I bought my Petrucci music man and couldn't imagine wanting another guitar other then this one. So what if it's a sig, I love the guitar.
^^^^^ Axe snob
Seriously though, why can't they have both? If you love Stevie and buying this makes you happy and you like to play it so what? I bought my Petrucci music man and couldn't imagine wanting another guitar other then this one. So what if it's a sig, I love the guitar.
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What a GORGEOUS guitar, and yeah, a beautiful story.
Rich, Obviously Lenora didn't mind, and that's all that really matters. Naturally, it is her story. And Jimmy V didn't mind offereing the guitar for sale either, so...
I don't see it as greed, I see it as people close to a man that they loved, respected, and admired, honouring what, and who he was with the passion that he did it. The business end of it only helps the "tribute" to get out, and therefore be unleashed to the world at large. A person can play it, or not; I definitely, and personally don't care what an owner chooses to do with it. However, all in all and to me, it is a fitting gesture to a person who loved music, and was only able to share his gift, and talent for a moment of time in time.
Again, I see no greed present here.
Thx for the links btw,....cool.
What a GORGEOUS guitar, and yeah, a beautiful story.
Rich, Obviously Lenora didn't mind, and that's all that really matters. Naturally, it is her story. And Jimmy V didn't mind offereing the guitar for sale either, so...
I don't see it as greed, I see it as people close to a man that they loved, respected, and admired, honouring what, and who he was with the passion that he did it. The business end of it only helps the "tribute" to get out, and therefore be unleashed to the world at large. A person can play it, or not; I definitely, and personally don't care what an owner chooses to do with it. However, all in all and to me, it is a fitting gesture to a person who loved music, and was only able to share his gift, and talent for a moment of time in time.
Again, I see no greed present here.
Thx for the links btw,....cool.
J Moose
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I don't think Rich's point was that it's a signature model, but that it's a $15,000 model, not a $1500 one.
Well, I don't know that it's $15k but it's gotta be expensive.
Guitar Center paid close to $700,000 for Lenny at a charity auction & Fender built less then 200, probably ALL sold through GC of course...
Not unlike the Clapton Blackie or 335, EVH Frankenstein or...
I don't think Rich's point was that it's a signature model, but that it's a $15,000 model, not a $1500 one.
Well, I don't know that it's $15k but it's gotta be expensive.
Guitar Center paid close to $700,000 for Lenny at a charity auction & Fender built less then 200, probably ALL sold through GC of course...
Not unlike the Clapton Blackie or 335, EVH Frankenstein or...
Top Jimmy
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Gunny47
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Re: Fender SRV "Lenny" guitar
I love that guitar so much, I prefer it over SRV's first wife #1 strat. I would never buy the thing even if money was no option because I just have this disposition against any kind of signature guitar. Let the collectors buy them and put them in a case or play them because they want "good tone" I still will take a custom shop reissue of any guitar model any day of the week at a fraction of the price of these limited edition signature remakes.
I love that guitar so much, I prefer it over SRV's first wife #1 strat. I would never buy the thing even if money was no option because I just have this disposition against any kind of signature guitar. Let the collectors buy them and put them in a case or play them because they want "good tone" I still will take a custom shop reissue of any guitar model any day of the week at a fraction of the price of these limited edition signature remakes.
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Skarekrough
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It makes me sad to see something like this with his legacy be so inaccessible to most of the general public.
One of the great legacies of the Blues is that it's something that anyone can get into. Everyone gets the Blues. Everyone can understand the Blues. Anyone can appreciate the Blues.
One of the great stories of the Blues came from Muddy Waters. He tells this great tale about one of the guys in his band working a job as a taxi dispatcher and his boss giving him a hard time about needing time off to record. The guys boss tells him that he ca have all the time he wants off; after his shift he was fired. He knew they needed one more mic for the session that night so when he was done he cut the wires to the dispatch mic and that night they recorded with it.
It makes me sad to see something like this with his legacy be so inaccessible to most of the general public.
One of the great legacies of the Blues is that it's something that anyone can get into. Everyone gets the Blues. Everyone can understand the Blues. Anyone can appreciate the Blues.
One of the great stories of the Blues came from Muddy Waters. He tells this great tale about one of the guys in his band working a job as a taxi dispatcher and his boss giving him a hard time about needing time off to record. The guys boss tells him that he ca have all the time he wants off; after his shift he was fired. He knew they needed one more mic for the session that night so when he was done he cut the wires to the dispatch mic and that night they recorded with it.
Gearjoneser
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I agree with this. Blues is about living a sad hard life and pouring your pain into a common musical language. That's who started it, and that's who is always best at living it and playing it.
I'm sorry, but some kid who grows up in wealth, get's his college paid for, has a white picket fence life with his CPA job, highschool sweetheart wife, and 2.5 kids in private school IS NOT A F$%#$% BLUESMAN, and just because he learned a few blues licks after getting settled........Ahhhhhh, #$@%$#
I'm sick of those douchebags, and sick of companies like Gibson and Fender pandering to them, but I realize it's all about sales. As a guy who never had anything handed to him, and spent years in blues bands while working crap jobs, I laugh, and most famous blues musicians get annoyed by those guys when they run up to them to autograph their high dollar guitar for Ebay. I get tired of meeting those Allman Bros worshipping guys in Fender caps, who go on and on about $100,000 guitars. Anyone who buys a $15,000 replica and fumbles some half baked BB King licks on it, should be thrown on a stage next to some real blues players and receive some public humiliation. That's all I have to say about that. :banghead:
I agree with this. Blues is about living a sad hard life and pouring your pain into a common musical language. That's who started it, and that's who is always best at living it and playing it.
I'm sorry, but some kid who grows up in wealth, get's his college paid for, has a white picket fence life with his CPA job, highschool sweetheart wife, and 2.5 kids in private school IS NOT A F$%#$% BLUESMAN, and just because he learned a few blues licks after getting settled........Ahhhhhh, #$@%$#
I'm sick of those douchebags, and sick of companies like Gibson and Fender pandering to them, but I realize it's all about sales. As a guy who never had anything handed to him, and spent years in blues bands while working crap jobs, I laugh, and most famous blues musicians get annoyed by those guys when they run up to them to autograph their high dollar guitar for Ebay. I get tired of meeting those Allman Bros worshipping guys in Fender caps, who go on and on about $100,000 guitars. Anyone who buys a $15,000 replica and fumbles some half baked BB King licks on it, should be thrown on a stage next to some real blues players and receive some public humiliation. That's all I have to say about that. :banghead:
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J Moose
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Skarekrough
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Well, yes and no.
I think some of what you touched on is a lack of perspetive. Someone that gets a new BMW every year, lives in a mansion and has their accountant on speed dial....it's difficult to say that they live a hard life and their perspective I think is, in great part, skewed to a point that it's hard to take where their coming from in regards to the Blues very seriously.
But at the same time were all prone to emotion. We all have painted ourselves into corners and had bad things come to us and done to us. It's part of the human experience. We all have regrets and we all get down on ourselves now and again.
But there is always an issue of quantifiability with this. I'm a white thirty-something male living in the suburbs of Boston with a mortgage, a Honda SUV and a room full of guitars. It's hard to say it's a tough life. I've got to have some serious ballls to say I have any cred when it comes to playing the Blues!
But there were times when I had ****ed-near nothing, and it was the Blues that pulled me through. There were alot of late nights with BB and Albert (both of them) and Muddy and Robert that got me where I am now.
And it also got a whole lot of others through as well.
I think the vogue-ness of the Blues to the upper-class Baby Boomer generation has made things like the "Lenny" reproduction tough to take seriously. Harley-Davidson is going through the same thing; they're more LawyerCycles as of late than anything else.
But it's up on stage where it matters. I see alot of kids with Strats and stupid hats walk up, tune up and get smoked. You try and encourage them after the crash and burn but rarely do they show up again. There's more to it than knowing "Texas Flood" note for note. Matter of fact, I think the worst thing you could do would be to learn something like that note for note with the intention of ever playing it in any situations.
The Onion kinda nailed it on the head....reading through it still makes me chuckle.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38839
Well, yes and no.
I think some of what you touched on is a lack of perspetive. Someone that gets a new BMW every year, lives in a mansion and has their accountant on speed dial....it's difficult to say that they live a hard life and their perspective I think is, in great part, skewed to a point that it's hard to take where their coming from in regards to the Blues very seriously.
But at the same time were all prone to emotion. We all have painted ourselves into corners and had bad things come to us and done to us. It's part of the human experience. We all have regrets and we all get down on ourselves now and again.
But there is always an issue of quantifiability with this. I'm a white thirty-something male living in the suburbs of Boston with a mortgage, a Honda SUV and a room full of guitars. It's hard to say it's a tough life. I've got to have some serious ballls to say I have any cred when it comes to playing the Blues!
But there were times when I had ****ed-near nothing, and it was the Blues that pulled me through. There were alot of late nights with BB and Albert (both of them) and Muddy and Robert that got me where I am now.
And it also got a whole lot of others through as well.
I think the vogue-ness of the Blues to the upper-class Baby Boomer generation has made things like the "Lenny" reproduction tough to take seriously. Harley-Davidson is going through the same thing; they're more LawyerCycles as of late than anything else.
But it's up on stage where it matters. I see alot of kids with Strats and stupid hats walk up, tune up and get smoked. You try and encourage them after the crash and burn but rarely do they show up again. There's more to it than knowing "Texas Flood" note for note. Matter of fact, I think the worst thing you could do would be to learn something like that note for note with the intention of ever playing it in any situations.
The Onion kinda nailed it on the head....reading through it still makes me chuckle.
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/38839
JB_From_Hell
Jomo's Nimions
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That's a collector's item. Plain and simple.
My $.02 is that to convincingly play the blues, you need to be able to convey emotion through your playing. It has nothing to do with learning SRV or anybody else's licks. I don't think that you necessarily have to have lived a rough life to be able to do that, but if history is any teacher, it certainly doesn't hurt Seriously though, you probably do need to have really hurt, really felt pain.
That's a collector's item. Plain and simple.
My $.02 is that to convincingly play the blues, you need to be able to convey emotion through your playing. It has nothing to do with learning SRV or anybody else's licks. I don't think that you necessarily have to have lived a rough life to be able to do that, but if history is any teacher, it certainly doesn't hurt
Seriously though, you probably do need to have really hurt, really felt pain.
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i find it brilliant marketing. most of these are spoken for before they ever go on sale. there are the kind of people GJ talks about above who fall for it every time.
Take their money, I say. Let them stand in front of the mirror and live out their dreams. Lots of us are already playing and performing, and we didn't have to pay $15k for a guitar with a story that isn't ours.
i find it brilliant marketing. most of these are spoken for before they ever go on sale. there are the kind of people GJ talks about above who fall for it every time.
Take their money, I say. Let them stand in front of the mirror and live out their dreams. Lots of us are already playing and performing, and we didn't have to pay $15k for a guitar with a story that isn't ours.
Gearjoneser
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I think I sounded a bit worked up in that last post, but it's what crossed my mind when I saw the new ads. Maybe the whole idea of "tribute" is worn thin at this point, and my jaded self is just laughing at it.
I have to agree that they're just collectors items, and as much as we all like our instruments, I can respect anyone's choice to buy whatever they want.
If there's one thing I love about the blues, it's that it's honest and pure. There's no hiding when playing blues. It's a complete language, and it's easy to tell where you are in the language.
Not to mention, what you use it for to build upon.
I think I sounded a bit worked up in that last post, but it's what crossed my mind when I saw the new ads. Maybe the whole idea of "tribute" is worn thin at this point, and my jaded self is just laughing at it.
I have to agree that they're just collectors items, and as much as we all like our instruments, I can respect anyone's choice to buy whatever they want.
If there's one thing I love about the blues, it's that it's honest and pure. There's no hiding when playing blues. It's a complete language, and it's easy to tell where you are in the language.
Not to mention, what you use it for to build upon.
blueslegend8
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nice guitar. I've always prefered it to #1, but whatev. I can't believe that ya'll are arguing over this though. I am a HUGE SRV fan, you can as Bbent, Andrizzle, TGWIF, or anybody and even still this guitar does not appeal to me. The people who are gonna buy this guitar are not guitar PLAYERS they are guitar COLLECTORS. Let them be, if they wanna waste the money they can go ahead. It looks kool and thats what they want.
Second, what pisses me off more is that Jimmy Auctioned the original "Lenny" guitar. They day I found he did so I was kinda pissed. Having already know the story at the time , I always thought it was proper to give the guitar to Lenora. I can't believe it was never given to her. THE ONLY Guitar of Stevie's to be sold is probably the one Stevie would never have sold himself.
nice guitar. I've always prefered it to #1, but whatev. I can't believe that ya'll are arguing over this though. I am a HUGE SRV fan, you can as Bbent, Andrizzle, TGWIF, or anybody and even still this guitar does not appeal to me. The people who are gonna buy this guitar are not guitar PLAYERS they are guitar COLLECTORS. Let them be, if they wanna waste the money they can go ahead. It looks kool and thats what they want.
Second, what pisses me off more is that Jimmy Auctioned the original "Lenny" guitar. They day I found he did so I was kinda pissed. Having already know the story at the time , I always thought it was proper to give the guitar to Lenora. I can't believe it was never given to her. THE ONLY Guitar of Stevie's to be sold is probably the one Stevie would never have sold himself.
Gr8Scott
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I think the guitars might be very cool overall, but I think it's not very appealing to see such a high pricetag on a guitar that just looks like the one SRV played. I'm a little jaded on the reason to produce this guitar in such limited quantities and make it one of those "collector" guitars that will probably hang on a wall in a glass case and never be played. Seems like a huge waste of $15,000 for something that will rarely if ever get played.
I think the guitars might be very cool overall, but I think it's not very appealing to see such a high pricetag on a guitar that just looks like the one SRV played. I'm a little jaded on the reason to produce this guitar in such limited quantities and make it one of those "collector" guitars that will probably hang on a wall in a glass case and never be played. Seems like a huge waste of $15,000 for something that will rarely if ever get played.
ErikH
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Re: Fender SRV "Lenny" guitar
Guys, relax. This isn't the first SRV guitar replica. Last year they did a tribute replica of his number 1. Same thing, it went to collectors. So why the big stink about this one?
blueslegend, Stevie divorced from Lenora in 1987. That could be why she never got it to begin with.
Guys, relax. This isn't the first SRV guitar replica. Last year they did a tribute replica of his number 1. Same thing, it went to collectors. So why the big stink about this one?
blueslegend, Stevie divorced from Lenora in 1987. That could be why she never got it to begin with.
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