Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

[Davidandrew]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

Fender has said on their new line of AVRI guitars the new WRHB pick ups are supposed to be tweaked to sound more like the originals I wouldn't mind hearing if anyone has opinions of those ?

 

[Tele-Bob]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

Curtis Novak is the first guy I know of to start modifying WRHB's to sound better. Then Telenator came on the scene in 2008. Since then, Lollar and The Creamery have come up with their versions so there are some alternatives available now.

Lollar is unique in that he uses 6 alnico V plain magnets and 6 threaded FeCrCo magnets, (3 each per coil), to make his version. To the best of my knowledge the others all use 12 FeCrCo magnets in their pickups.

Telenator is unique in that the MOD1 uses 12 plain alnico II magnets. The MOD2 uses 12 plain alnico V magnets, and the Limited Edition CuNiFe pickups uses 12 threaded CuNiFe magnets.

The Telenator Limited Edition WRHB is absolutely vintage correct in specs and materials with one exception. The bobbins are custom machined from Delrin, not injection molded.

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

Interesting thread...

Now, I am curious about Duncan. Knowing his dedication to "historic accuracy" and all... Wooden spacers, exact formulae of the bobins and stuff...

B

 

[dr.barlo]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

Fender Classic Series '72 Telecaster Thinline {natural} Replacement Pickups?
Seymour Duncan has replied back saying the custom shop can recreate the original Fender Humbucker with the CuNiFe Magnet.

If I may ask, did you receive any price quotes?

B

 

[The Engineer]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

New member and at the moment working on a 72 Tele de luxe. So looking at what is available in the WRHB. I noticed a comment about hardening the threaded magnets after machining, this got me thinking that Iron Fe will not harden unless alloyed with carbon and then the steel becomes martensitic. Now martensite if I remember is not magnetic, so magnetic steels must be annealed to make them Austenitic, this is magnetic. so does anyone know the true treatment and properties of the core magnets used? Just saying.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

While we're on the subject, it's worth mentioning that Manlius makes something similar in a normal humbucker size. Most likely using A5 mags. Haven't heard them but Manlius has a pretty good reputation. I figure with the recent surge in popularity, someone might be looking to try this type of pickup in an axe with standard rout.

 

[GilmourD]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

New member and at the moment working on a 72 Tele de luxe. So looking at what is available in the WRHB. I noticed a comment about hardening the threaded magnets after machining, this got me thinking that Iron Fe will not harden unless alloyed with carbon and then the steel becomes martensitic. Now martensite if I remember is not magnetic, so magnetic steels must be annealed to make them Austenitic, this is magnetic. so does anyone know the true treatment and properties of the core magnets used? Just saying.

This sounds like a call for Frank Falbo.

 

[LtKojak]

Re: Fender "Wide Range" Humbucker

I noticed a comment about hardening the threaded magnets after machining, this got me thinking that Iron Fe will not harden unless alloyed with carbon and then the steel becomes martensitic. Now martensite if I remember is not magnetic, so magnetic steels must be annealed to make them Austenitic, this is magnetic. so does anyone know the true treatment and properties of the core magnets used? Just saying.

You're thinking about iron steel, used to make both polepiece screws and slugs, which % of carbon regulate how magnetism travels through and difusse its magnetic field. This material does not became permanently magnetic, but can hold a residual amount, called "memory".

Magnet making is another completely different process, which annealing is the last step before cooling-off in the mold. Even if you could subject the rods to another annealing process, it'll certainly alter the permanent magnetic properties, most probably reducing'em to unusable low levels. That's my understanding, anyway.

HTH,