Finally found out how to end the tonewood debate.
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GoldenVulture
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Re: Finally found out how to end the tonewood debate.
That isn't what I'm saying and your just starting to waffle. Mate go back over what has already been said.
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Re: Finally found out how to end the tonewood debate.
You are likely making that piece of wood resonate acoustically. Same if you press your neck against a table or wall.
Will it translate into the amplified tone? Probably not, because you aren't changing the acoustic properties of the guitar. You are adding an acoustic output from the piece of wood.
Now on the other hand, clamp a weight to the headstock or screw that piece of wood solidly to the body. Will that make a difference? Probably.
But you have not changed the wood the body and neck are made from. You just added mass.
To hear a real difference you need a different piece of wood.
And this is also why two otherwise identical guitars might sound different. Wood is very variable.
Here's another example. These two basses are identical except one has a birdseye maple top, and the other is zebrawood. Both have cherry bodies made from the same board. Both have 7 piece maple/purpleheart necks with dual truss rods and carbon rods, and phenolic fretboards.
In this photo they have different bridges. But I have them both outfitted with the same Hipshot aluminum bridges and my own pickups.
They sound very different from each other. Th maple top bass is brighter. The zebrawood bass is very mellow. The only difference is the tops!
Do this enough times and you become very familiar with the tone of different woods. And different combinations too.
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You are likely making that piece of wood resonate acoustically. Same if you press your neck against a table or wall.
Will it translate into the amplified tone? Probably not, because you aren't changing the acoustic properties of the guitar. You are adding an acoustic output from the piece of wood.
Now on the other hand, clamp a weight to the headstock or screw that piece of wood solidly to the body. Will that make a difference? Probably.
But you have not changed the wood the body and neck are made from. You just added mass.
To hear a real difference you need a different piece of wood.
And this is also why two otherwise identical guitars might sound different. Wood is very variable.
Here's another example. These two basses are identical except one has a birdseye maple top, and the other is zebrawood. Both have cherry bodies made from the same board. Both have 7 piece maple/purpleheart necks with dual truss rods and carbon rods, and phenolic fretboards.
In this photo they have different bridges. But I have them both outfitted with the same Hipshot aluminum bridges and my own pickups.
They sound very different from each other. Th maple top bass is brighter. The zebrawood bass is very mellow. The only difference is the tops!
Do this enough times and you become very familiar with the tone of different woods. And different combinations too.
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These sort of tests are also akin to a premise like 'does x food cause allergies'. It only takes 1 person with an allergy to prove that it does, but until you have tested that one person on the planet you cannot definitively say one way or the other.
And I know 100 people not allergic to nuts. So does that mean there is definitively no nut allergy and its a myth??
I mean I can point you toward 2 test on different woods that are about as scientific as you can get within the constraints of people being recorded that show wood is an undoubted tonal factor.
These sort of tests are also akin to a premise like 'does x food cause allergies'. It only takes 1 person with an allergy to prove that it does, but until you have tested that one person on the planet you cannot definitively say one way or the other.
And I know 100 people not allergic to nuts. So does that mean there is definitively no nut allergy and its a myth??
I mean I can point you toward 2 test on different woods that are about as scientific as you can get within the constraints of people being recorded that show wood is an undoubted tonal factor.
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Re: Finally found out how to end the tonewood debate.
Actually the way to end the debate is entirely involving education if we want to be truthful
Educate those with a poor grasp of science so that it becomes obvious that there is a difference
Educate those (generally of the male sex) who are emotionally immature and due to fear can't admit they might be might be wrong about the validity or truth of a premise or an opinion they hold
Actually the way to end the debate is entirely involving education if we want to be truthful
Educate those with a poor grasp of science so that it becomes obvious that there is a difference
Educate those (generally of the male sex) who are emotionally immature and due to fear can't admit they might be might be wrong about the validity or truth of a premise or an opinion they hold
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