Finally installed Antiquities in PRS

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Finally got to install a pair of 4 conductor antiquities in my PRS DGT late tonight, and all I can say is WOW. The bridge pickup has a lot more bark than I was expecting, and the neck pickup is all kinds of fat, clear, sometimes even a tad chimey depending on the amp. Definitely keepers.

I plan on using them in the DGT with some resistors used to partially split the coil, but ends up buying the wrong size push pull pot [emoji2359]

Anyway, I’m just reiterating what almost all of y’all know anyway. Good job SD on these pickups [emoji1373]


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[Mincer]

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Awesome! I am happy this worked out- can we see a pic of them in the guitar?

 

[Gransen]

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I plan on using them in the DGT with some resistors used to partially split the coil, but ends up buying the wrong size push pull pot [emoji2359

Didn't the guitar come with a push/pull pot and the unique PRS wiring...??? A common mod is to re-wire it to split instead of phase shift. Purchased used and modified prior to you buying it...???

 

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Didn't the guitar come with a push/pull pot and the unique PRS wiring...??? A common mod is to re-wire it to split instead of phase shift. Purchased used and modified prior to you buying it...???

One of the original owners ( I’m like the 5th) had replaced all the wiring at some point. I think the DGT does have the partial coil split resistor thing, maybe I’m wrong but i had been under that assumption.

The cool thing is that the person who replaced the pickups did a killer job on it, so it’s all super clean. I’ll take a picture this weekend!


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Here’s a picture of it with the ants!

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[Gransen]

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Sweet guitar! Nice inlays, better than mine (solid not outlined).

I'm not a PRS fan per se, I just happened to need a 7 string for my Invaders, and my SE 7 fixed bridge was for sale, so I bought it. I had to go check the PRS website because I was surprised to see a 6 point trem on that guitar, but it looks like that's their thing! Mind blown...

 

[Mincer]

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Yeah! That is an awesome guitar that no doubt sounds as good as it looks!

 

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Yeah! That is an awesome guitar that no doubt sounds as good as it looks!

Thanks man! I’ll post some clips here soon too


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Everything sounds great so far, but I’m having one issue.

How can I get hum-cancelling in the middle position with the two humbuckers split? Do I need to reverse the phasing of my split sound for the neck humbucker?


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[Mincer]

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You may have to flip a magnet for that depending on what coils you want.

 

[dystrust]

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You may have to flip a magnet for that depending on what coils you want.

The easiest way is to split the neck pickup to the screw coil instead of the slug. Wiring diagram here, but you'll want to reverse the neck and bridge as the diagram splits the neck to slug coil and the bridge to screw coil. I have my Explorer wired that way, and it's dead silent in the middle position with both split.

Alternatively, you'd need to flip the magnet in one of the pickups and also rewire it (incorrect instructions removed). This second option would give you both slug coils active as well as RW/RP.

Correction: The only wiring change needed is to swap the green and black wires.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

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Didn't the guitar come with a push/pull pot and the unique PRS wiring...??? A common mod is to re-wire it to split instead of phase shift. Purchased used and modified prior to you buying it...???

The factory wiring on DGTs is for split with resistors, not phase. I believe the standard resistors are 2.2K for the bridge and 1.1K for the neck. I haven't measured the ones in mine.

 

[eclecticsynergy]

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Sweet guitar! Nice inlays, better than mine (solid not outlined).

I'm not a PRS fan per se, I just happened to need a 7 string for my Invaders, and my SE 7 fixed bridge was for sale, so I bought it. I had to go check the PRS website because I was surprised to see a 6 point trem on that guitar, but it looks like that's their thing! Mind blown...

Yep, the PRS trems are six screw. But the innovation that makes them so great is not immediately apparent - each screw has a notch just below the head, to mate with knife edges in the holes on the bridge plate. Super smooth and very precise.

In fact the six screws need to remain exactly as set from the factory since altering the screw height can result in damage the hardware. Raising or lowering the action has to be done at the saddles.

These trems work amazingly well. I've had my oldest PRS since '87 and it's been entirely hassle-free. 32 years without a single problem.

 

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Here a short video of the pickups and the guitar!

https://youtu.be/Sh7dm5L3cXE


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[Gransen]

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Here a short video of the pickups and the guitar!

https://youtu.be/Sh7dm5L3cXE


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Sounds great! I like how you're getting some clearly defined differences in your pickup changes; yet it all feels like it's coming from the same setup.

 

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The easiest way is to split the neck pickup to the screw coil instead of the slug. Wiring diagram here, but you'll want to reverse the neck and bridge as the diagram splits the neck to slug coil and the bridge to screw coil. I have my Explorer wired that way, and it's dead silent in the middle position with both split.

Alternatively, you'd need to flip the magnet in one of the pickups and also rewire it with the green & black together, red to ground, and white as output. This second option would give you both screw coils active as well as RW/RP.

So, correct if I’m wrong, that will mean that the main “hot” output would be the South Start as opposed to the north start? And the North start would go to ground?


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[dystrust]

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So, correct if I’m wrong, that will mean that the main “hot” output would be the South Start as opposed to the north start? And the North start would go to ground?


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It's been a long day, so bear with me. The more I think it over, the more I'm sure that the instructions you quoted are wrong. You do need to flip the magnet in one of the pickups, but the only wires you need to reverse are the green and black. That way the output will be the start of the south coil and ground will be the north start just as you've suggested.

IMO splitting the neck pickup to the screw coil instead of the slug is the better option.

 

[Gransen]

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I'm not a PRS fan per se, I just happened to need a 7 string for my Invaders, and my SE 7 fixed bridge was for sale, so I bought it. I had to go check the PRS website because I was surprised to see a 6 point trem on that guitar, but it looks like that's their thing! Mind blown...

This one started getting to me, so I had to look it up: "Why does PRS use a 6 point trem when everyone else got away from it decades ago...???

I found these two posts on a different forum, OP asking the same question...

The PRS 6 screw trems are way more advanced design and function wise than a vintage 6 screw like a fender. PRS trem are floater and have the 6 screws specialy notched to provied smooth and consistent movement both up and down. If you were to take apart a PRS trem guitar and compare the trems and hardware to standard vintage trems you'd clearly see the difference.

The problems with 2 posts is after time the knife edge wears away and the trem is no longer consistent as far as returning to pitch. This is where the six special notched screws come into play on the PRS.

Followed by...

I think you're comparing apples (Fender's vintage six screw) to oranges (the PRS design). There are no maintenance issues to speak of. Simply adjust the spring claw and go.

The PRS trem is widely considered to be the best and most stable non-locking trem on the market.

Got it, they re-invented the wheel, and it actually ended up rounder than the alternative.

Only mentioning this because I don't like trash talking something that isn't trash. When that happens, I like to fix the glitch.