PRS 59/09 - 57/08 vs Other PAF style in DGT

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Looking to replace the Electric City Pickups Hallowed Ground PAF Pickups that came in my PRS DGT, and am considering the two mentioned PRS pickup sets above.

The main reason I’m considering them is because they can be easy to reference, since they can still be found on existing PRS guitars, and they all seem to split exceptionally well for low output pickups. But apart from that, are there any legitimate reasons to go with the 59/09, 57/08 as compared to something like Seth lovers, Lollar Imperials, etc???

The biggest thing for me is that I’m looking for a full sounding bridge, and a clear sounding neck pickup, and split tones that can maintain some level (so maybe mismatched humbuckers), and the ability to get some good mixed hum/single split tones available.

Thanks!


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Oh and here’s a picture for reference!

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[a0adio0]

Re: PRS 59/09 - 57/08 vs Other PAF style in DGT

Looking to replace the Electric City Pickups Hallowed Ground PAF Pickups that came in my PRS DGT, and am considering the two mentioned PRS pickup sets above.

The main reason I’m considering them is because they can be easy to reference, since they can still be found on existing PRS guitars, and they all seem to split exceptionally well for low output pickups. But apart from that, are there any legitimate reasons to go with the 59/09, 57/08 as compared to something like Seth lovers, Lollar Imperials, etc???

The biggest thing for me is that I’m looking for a full sounding bridge, and a clear sounding neck pickup, and split tones that can maintain some level (so maybe mismatched humbuckers), and the ability to get some good mixed hum/single split tones available.

Thanks!


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I wouldn't say there's a ton of reason to go with the pickups you mentioned over the PRS pickup sets.

Personally, I prefer the SD Invaders in my PRS CE 24. It's a 2005 model, so I don't remember much about the pickups it came with. I just know the Invaders were a lot heavier and thicker. So personally, I'd prefer some kind of an SD set, but that's just me.

Also, thanks for sharing the pic. That thing looks FANTASTIC.

 

[Mincer]

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You also might consider the Antiquity in the neck (clear), a Seth Lover bridge (full). You'd have to order them as 4 conductor versions, but a guitar that nice deserves exceptional pickups (that split really well).

 

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You also might consider the Antiquity in the neck (clear), a Seth Lover bridge (full). You'd have to order them as 4 conductor versions, but a guitar that nice deserves exceptional pickups (that split really well).

Thanks! That was a consideration as well, do they both split pretty well? I’ve never heard the antiques split before


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[Golem]

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PRS doesn’t do a normal split. It’s not a feature of the pickup per se but the wiring. At least that’s what I heard when I inquired previously. Obviously they design pickups that sound good split with that method.


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[Benjy_26]

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PRS doesn’t do a normal split. It’s not a feature of the pickup per se but the wiring. At least that’s what I heard when I inquired previously. Obviously they design pickups that sound good split with that method.


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This ia my understanding aa well. PRS uses caps or resistors (not sure which) to do a partial split.

 

[jeremy]

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if it was me, id order a 4 cond antiquity set. put a polished a3 in the neck, rc a2 in the bridge and call it a day. that would be a great sounding paf set. if you want more output then maybe the sns would be cool

 

[Lewguitar]

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if it was me, id order a 4 cond antiquity set. put a polished a3 in the neck, rc a2 in the bridge and call it a day. that would be a great sounding paf set. if you want more output then maybe the sns would be cool

Me too!

A3 in the neck and A2 in the bridge makes for my favorite humbucker set and I have modified Antiquitys and 59’s with those magnets and love the results.

I don’t split them tho.

If you do, go for the 4 conductor cable,

Could be wrong, but didn’t PRS used to require one pickup be magnetcally out of phase for their 5 way rotary switch to work its magic? I could be wrong.

I removed that switch and replaced it with a 3 way toggle in my PRS guitars that had it.

 

[Benjy_26]

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Yup. The 5 way rotary guitars had a flipped neck magnet.

 

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What’s interesting is these ECP pickup set actually has the A3 neck A2 bridge thing going, with the DCR being higher in the neck, but the output is still perfect.

I’m kind of being drawn to then the longer I use the guitar [emoji23] we’ll see how long it lasts [emoji23]


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[stevie_bees]

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WLH set would be worth a look too. I have them in my McCarty, and they split really nicely too.

 

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WLH set would be worth a look too. I have them in my McCarty, and they split really nicely too.

Nice! I’ll have to take a look at them


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[eclecticsynergy]

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The DGT split wiring is designed for vintage output pickups, so whether or not a pickup choice splits well in general is not particularly significant - the resistors beef up the split tone by keeping part of the affected coil in the circuit. And this wiring leaves more in of the bridge than the neck. So the only really important consideration is whether your choices have the wiring to make splits possible.

(In fact, pickups which are strong enough to split well on their own may be too strong to work well with the resistors - I recall a recent post from someone who put a 59/Custom Hybrid in his DGT and had to disconnect the resistor for that pickup because his split tone was too thick sounding.)

Bear in mind that thanks to its thicker body the DGT has a slightly fatter natural tone than standard PRSs like the Custom22. IMO a low wind neck pickup is a great choice for this one.

If you want to stay with PRS pickups I think the 59/09 bridge is probably the closest thing to an actual DGT bridge pickup, which seems to get a lot of love among those who use it. PRS doesn't share the details on their pickup designs but the DGT is widely considered to be a sightly-hot PAF with a bit of extra midrange. That matches up pretty closely with common user descriptions of the 59/09 bridge and with my own personal experience: 59/09 bridge has a little more thickness and grind than the 57/08s, with a bit of grunt in chords and a sweet singing lead voice.

The 57/08 neck is absolutely glorious. One of my very favorites. Very responsive to dynamics & fingertouch, excellent detail & separation, and a beautiful vintage sepiatone flavor. I wouldn't call it transparent but the coloration it imparts is magnificent. Perfect balance of crisp and warm. 57/08s have a certain special hard-to-describe 3-D character to them that I haven't found in any other pickup. And they're bright enough to do really well in a rich sounding guitar - mine are in a McCarty which has a slightly deeper body like the DGTs do.

 

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They’re for sale!

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[jeremy]

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nice! scoop those bad boys up