Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

crusty philtrum

Vintageologist
I built a guitar recently with two hybrid humbuckers (Custom/59 bridge, Jazz/59 neck, both with aged A5 magnets) and two volume cotrols/master tone control.

Because the instrument was a sonic unknown, I've been doing some experimenting. After a couple of magnet swaps i decided to turn my attention to the pot values. The ones i originally installed were CTS 500K audio-taper.

I was thinking about changing the pots to 300K linear (i have never liked the way audio-taper pots seem to cause all the volume action to happen between 7 and 10 on the dial, i prefer a smooth increase in volume spread evenly from '0' to '10'). However, after changing magnets on covered humbuckers a couple of times, changing pots and possibly doing that more than once was just too much for me at this time, so I decided to try a quicker way to get an idea of how different pots would behave and sound.

Basically i decided to clip various resistors across the 500K pots to change their value. This would be quick and easy using a couple of alligator-clip test leads. I calculated what pot values i could create using standard resistor values.

If you know about speakers, you will know that another resistance of the same value will reduce the load to one half ... i.e. putting a 500K resistor across the 500K pot will make it's value effectively 250K. I wanted to hear what a 300K pot would sound like, and then other values between 300K and 500K.

For my test purposes, the resistor would be clipped across the outside two lugs of the volume pot (I used the neck pickup mostly) and the 500K tone pot remained in circuit.

Here's the calculated pot values created with standard resistor values paralleled across the 500K volume pot ..... (the symbol ' // ' means 'parallel).


500K (pot value) // 820K (resistor) = effective pot value of 310 K

500K // 1 Meg = 333K

500K // 1.2 Meg = 352K

500K // 1.5 Meg = 375K

500K // 1.8 Meg = 391K

500K // 2.2 Meg = 407K

500K // 2.7 Meg = 421K

500K // 3.3 Meg = 434K


None of the resistors really changed the taper of the pot in any noticeable or useful way. Of course the tone and output changed ... the lower the value of the resistor (and thus the overall pot value), the less treble and volume. All of the resistors created useful sounds, it becomes a matter of personal taste and would no doubt vary between different instruments and pickups. But each resistor had an effect. I initially went from the straight 500K pot to the '310K' value created with the 820K resistor to hear the largest change, then i worked through the resistors in the order I have listed them. Of course this involved some critical listening, clipping the resistor in and out several times for each value.

I later tried clipping the resistors across the volume pot between the wiper and ground, the wiper and hot, the tone pot (essentially the output on a 2V/1T configuration) and any other way that seemed possible. To my ear, if there were any changes, they were the same as my original method of clipping them across the outer lugs of the volume pot.

There are more configurations I could try, but haven't yet. I haven't tried doing this with the other volume pot and/or tone pot treated in the same way at the same time. But the results of what i have done yielded some great results, particularly for instrument/pickup combinations that may have a little more brightness than needed. This would probably also work really well combined with 'no-load' tone pots, and is possibly something that can be factored-in when considering magnet swaps.

It could also be possible to use a miniature preset pot instead of the resistor to give an constantly variable 'fine-tune' facility that could be accessed with a small screwdriver through a small hole in the control plate cover.

Given that a handful of resistors would cost less than a dollar, and a couple of alligator test leads wouldn't cost much more, it's a very worthwhile experiment to fine-tune the high end of a guitar's sound. If and when you find a resistor that works in a way that suits you, simply trim it and solder it in place.
 
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Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

Great post Crusty :notworthy

Its come at a perfect time too. I've a 60's tribute LP which has a bright bridge pickup so the idea of just soldering in a resistor is a great way to dial in just the right amount of tonal change.

btw, is the change in tone a linear thing, or is there a point where it seems to change more rapidly??
 
Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

Good post. Let it be said, however, that doing this experiment on a front routed guitar where everything is mounted to the scratchplate (i.e. Strat) would be a PITA.

Isn't this similar in principle to Gibson's Varitone, which uses different caps instead of resistors (I think) to achieve this ability to select different timbre shades?
 
Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

good psot

Lol when I read it i was think " change it a few cents" as in tuning "what the hell will treble mods do to the tuning ?"


Then .... DOH . I read it right
 
Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

This should go in the vault.

Since I know your pickup combo well, which value did you go for on the C5/59?
 
Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

good psot

Lol when I read it i was think " change it a few cents" as in tuning "what the hell will treble mods do to the tuning ?"


Then .... DOH . I read it right

Yeah, I didn't think about that when i wrote the title "tune" ... "cents" ... hehe. In hindsight, i probably should have said "How to fine tune your guitar's response for less than a dollar" or something similar.
 
Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

...... btw, is the change in tone a linear thing, or is there a point where it seems to change more rapidly??

To my ear, with this particular guitar and pickups, the effect and changes to the effect seemed pretty linear but that may vary. I don't know what the theory would be, i only know what my ears heard, and even then, someone else might hear the changes differently to me.
 
Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

This should go in the vault.

Since I know your pickup combo well, which value did you go for on the C5/59?

I was hoping that the resistor across the volume pot might make the pot's sweep a lot more linear (it may have been a tiny bit more linear but not in any useful way) so for the time being, I have not soldered any resistor across the pot. I want to get some 500K linear pots, but that type of pot with a long thread to suit a LP style instrument seem to be a rare item. Hopefully i can find some and then will run the tests again.

The particular guitar i experimented with, although solid mahogany (no maple cap), has an ebony fretboard and gold frets, which are a harder alloy than normal, but not as hard as stainless steel, so there is a tight, concise articulation to the attack. A 'presence', if you like. The resistor values that made the overall value about 400K seemed to suit my purposes .... closer to 300K overall value lost a little too much articulation for my taste, but most of this applies to the Jazz/59 in the neck position.

Of course with two volume cotrols, one can tailor each volume pot's // resistor separately, or only apply the resistor to one pickup/pot. Also i need to try this with a few different amps.

If i had to speculate for someone else's guitar, I'd say if it's a bright guitar/pickup combination, use a resistor value that will make the pot appear as something between 300 - 350K. If the guitar/pickup has good 'body' to it's tone but just needs that upper treble and presence tamed, a resistor value that makes the pot appear in the 380 - 440K area would probably be more suitable.

It's well worth remembering that stated pot values can vary quite widely (a 500K pot could probably be anywhere between 450 and 550K, although usually between 475 -525K) and of course the value of the resistor(s) used can vary by as much as +/- 10%, too. So the effects i heard could be slightly different to what you might hear on your guitar and pickup(s). Ultimately i think it will come down to some degree of experimentation, but hopefully my experiments can form some kind of reasonably accurate starting point.

It could be possible to install a rotary switch in a guitar that had a small range of resistors and one position with no resistor, even if it was a temporary measure to simply audition various resistor values.

There are a lot of possibilities for such a simple, cheap and effective tweak, although it can be time consuming. However, my thinking is that for a few hours work, you can fine-tune a guitar into that last small percentage area where it can go from 'good' to 'great' for less than a dollar.
 
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Re: Fine Tuning Your Guitar's Response For A Few Cents

Thats outright brilliant! Thanks for sharing!
 
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