First strat build...Callahan tremolo?

Re: First strat build...Callahan tremolo?

First, if you chose the Vintage 6-hole then I believe you will want to go for the MIM spec one from Callahan...but check the measurements from Callahan and Warmoth before buying.

Second, Callahan is top quality and while the pricing is pretty high you do get top of the line craftsmanship and materials. A lot of people use Callahan parts to upgrade existing parts.

Third, if the Callahan is really pushing your budget I would not be afraid to go with Gotoh.

Fourth, have fun and enjoy the project! Please keep us posted!
 
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I find the Callaham stuff really good. No matter how I adjust the cheaper strat trems (of which I have a few), I just cant get them to work as well or as smoothly as the Callaham. In that way they are in no way overpriced for my uses.

I agree. I recently upgraded the entire bridge on an American Special strat, with the Callaham vintage 6 point trem, saddles, trem bar and block.

The difference is night and day, the quality is palpable. And that's in comparison to my AVR '57 parts as well.

Is it worth it, especially vs Gotoh? Well I don't think I'd be unhappy with Gotoh, but I love the fact that I have the highest quality USA hardware possible. It makes it worthwhile to me everytime I flutter the trem, and the accuracy of tuning (in conjunction with some locking tuners).
 
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Yeah, no. It’s over priced. It’s not made any differently from Gotoh, etc. If you want US made I go with Hipshot. And everyone swears by TonePros, and that’s Gotoh (as is Wilkinson).

There’s lots of snake oil peddlers in the guitar hardware market. Others include FU, Alessandro, and any company that makes paper in oil caps or anything out of titanium. Lol.

And I’m speaking as a luthier, so I get stuff wholesale. [emoji2]


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Yeah, no. Not even close. Don't get me wrong, I use and love the Gotoh 510 tuners; they are some of the very best out there (and I've very recently praised them in their own thread), but their bridges are not on even par with Callaham from a pure construction standpoint. I have zero doubt they are of very high quality and function extremely well, but to say the Callaham "is made just like the Gotoh, etc." is just, well.... patently false. It shows a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

The Callaham bridge is milled from 100% solid steel; every part. The Gotoh has steel saddles (and it's not clear if they are machined or stamped) or zinc or brass saddles, but not made of completely milled parts. The baseplate is cast out of an unspecified metal, likely Zamek or something similar, but their site doesn't say. Callaham is all machined from steel to mil spec precision. Now, whether that makes the Callaham product superior is always going to be a matter of opinion, but never a matter of fact.

See, I can say that I "prefer" Callaham without completely denigrating Gotoh.

You're completely entitled to your opinion, but when you start presenting your opinion as something people should take as fact, that's just spreading misinformation. It's similar to me stating that mahogany is completely devoid of value as a instrument grade wood and should not be used. That's just patently false. People should be presented with information gleaned from personal experience, offered as opinion and to then be allowed to form their own opinion. That Callaham is overpriced and "everyone" swears by Tone Pro's is your opinion on the matter, and that is perfectly fine. It is however not a fact. There are a lot of snake oil salesman out there purporting to be luthiers as well..... but I shouldn't paint them all with such a broad brush; should I?.

Besides, you know what the "everyone" you quoted above says; it's pointless to argue with someone over the internet, because it's a lot like winning the Special Olympics.....
 
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FFS people...

Bill Callaham was making high-quality parts when no one was. As a small manufacturer, I would argue his prices are a bargain for what you get.

Of course, a company the size of Gotoh is going to be less. Either tremolo is high quality and will last a lifetime.

The Gotoh is all steel but you can order it with a zinc block (most don't even stock that version). Fender even got back in the game after getting their ass handed to them all these years. The "American Vintage" is twice the price of the Gotoh and not nearly as nice.

Buy what you want and play music
 
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i can say that all the callaham hardware ive bought has been terrific quality and have had zero issues and wouldnt hesitate to buy it again. strat bridge, tele bridge, replacement mexi block, tele saddles, and tuners are great. hell, he makes my favorite knobs too but ill admit those are a bit expensive, $40 for two. but they are my favorite knobs ive ever used and ill buy more even if they are pricey
 
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Forgot to mention the Callaham easy screw-in trem arm doesn't wobble at all... every wang bar movement is transferred to the bridge.
 
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And FFS stop calling it a god d(/%/¤&"¤ tremolo....it is changing pitch not volume...vibrato like your sodding fingers do when they go weeener weener weener meooorrw beuuh beeuh beeuh..... ;) Fockers!
Who gives a flying fork about it anyways??
Use what you bloody well like!
 
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Yeah, no. Not even close. Don't get me wrong, I use and love the Gotoh 510 tuners; they are some of the very best out there (and I've very recently praised them in their own thread), but their bridges are not on even par with Callaham from a pure construction standpoint. I have zero doubt they are of very high quality and function extremely well, but to say the Callaham "is made just like the Gotoh, etc." is just, well.... patently false. It shows a complete lack of knowledge on the subject.

The Callaham bridge is milled from 100% solid steel; every part. The Gotoh has steel saddles (and it's not clear if they are machined or stamped) or zinc or brass saddles, but not made of completely milled parts. The baseplate is cast out of an unspecified metal, likely Zamek or something similar, but their site doesn't say. Callaham is all machined from steel to mil spec precision. Now, whether that makes the Callaham product superior is always going to be a matter of opinion, but never a matter of fact.

See, I can say that I "prefer" Callaham without completely denigrating Gotoh.

You're completely entitled to your opinion, but when you start presenting your opinion as something people should take as fact, that's just spreading misinformation. It's similar to me stating that mahogany is completely devoid of value as a instrument grade wood and should not be used. That's just patently false. People should be presented with information gleaned from personal experience, offered as opinion and to then be allowed to form their own opinion. That Callaham is overpriced and "everyone" swears by Tone Pro's is your opinion on the matter, and that is perfectly fine. It is however not a fact. There are a lot of snake oil salesman out there purporting to be luthiers as well..... but I shouldn't paint them all with such a broad brush; should I?.

Besides, you know what the "everyone" you quoted above says; it's pointless to argue with someone over the internet, because it's a lot like winning the Special Olympics.....

None of that matters. Look at the original Fender bridges. Not milled. Just stamped steel baseplate and saddles. If you want a bridge made like it used to be made there you go.

Hipshot are machined, better designed and better priced.

And whether a bridge is milled or cast makes zero difference. And some people want steel. Some want brass. They sound different. One is not “better.”

You can not quantify Callaham as being “better.” It’s just different.

After you build some guitars (not parts lcasters) and use various hardware, come and talk to me. You’ve stated an option. I stated mine.


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First strat build...Callahan tremolo?

Is the Gotoh all steel?

The Callaham bridge, block, saddle pieces and arm are 100% steel.

Do you want a steel bridge? Some people like brass bridges. Steel is very bright. Not the best for some guitars.

One is not better. It’s Apples and Oranges.


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All steel.....well with some guitars...ping ping and more nasty ping...throw on some of those dratted steel frets and it is all...auch!

Not been my experience with all steel at all. In fact, I noticed a significant improvement in the Bell-like Chime with the Gotoh Steel than the cheap MIM original tremolo. And Stainless Steel Frets don't make nasty ping on any of my guitars (all but one has them.)

Not in anyway negating your experience–just saying in all of my experiences with Steel it hasn't had nasty pings. And in full disclosure, I really like Brass Saddles and Nuts on some of my guitars.
 
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Do you want a steel bridge? Some people like brass bridges. Steel is very bright. Not the best for some guitars.

One is not better. It’s Apples and Oranges.


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Well sure I wanted steel. Like the old ones. My rig (old-school) handles the brightness easily.

That inimitable Strat "crash & crang" is there in spades.

This is the Callaham hardware and Callaham H/SRV equipped strat straight into my cranked '66 Fender Deluxe:

 
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Not been my experience with all steel at all. In fact, I noticed a significant improvement in the Bell-like Chime with the Gotoh Steel than the cheap MIM original tremolo. And Stainless Steel Frets don't make nasty ping on any of my guitars (all but one has them.)

Not in anyway negating your experience–just saying in all of my experiences with Steel it hasn't had nasty pings. And in full disclosure, I really like Brass Saddles and Nuts on some of my guitars.
As I wrote...with some guitars....
Personally I do not like steel everywhere.....

Frets I prefer oldschool, I don't wear them much either as I do not press very hard on my strings....
Plus when I do need to dress them up...don't wanna take all day about it...dratted things are too hard.
I like good steel where the wear is hard, like the plate and saddles, vibrato screws and such...I like the sound of zinc blocks or something that is soft...I prefer that softer sound as I like my amps clear and such.
 
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Speaking of "nasty pings" and other unpleasantness... those smooth "sintered" block-shaped bridge pieces that were standard on the Am Std strat 2 holers for a long time... those things had the nastiest harsh treble.

Naturally I replaced them with a Callaham retrofit kit (saddles, block and arm). Nasty treble gone!
 
Re: First strat build...Callahan tremolo?

Speaking of "nasty pings" and other unpleasantness... those smooth "sintered" block-shaped bridge pieces that were standard on the Am Std strat 2 holers for a long time... those things had the nastiest harsh treble.

Naturally I replaced them with a Callaham retrofit kit (saddles, block and arm). Nasty treble gone!

That crap was sintered?

No wonder then. Nothing sintered was ever good
 
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About Gotoh...have had guitars with their old 101 vintage bridge....30 years plus of usage...well they still works nicely...
Like the Japanese don't know how to make steel?? Ehehe
 
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