Floyd Meets The P90s.

[Lucius Paisley]

After a little look around, my original idea probably won't work. On this guitar.



So, I plan to take it to the next level (not really "level", but another stupid idea I have)...

P90s in place of those who knows what they are exactly humbuckers.

I'm sure one of you has something to say in regard to why this is a bad idea. So, please, have at it.

 

[GuitarDoc]

Not a bad idea at all. P-90s are absolutely terrific sounding. You can get them in humbucker size to drop right in, or you can get P-90 adapter rings to fit over the humbucker routs.

 

[Lucius Paisley]

Not a bad idea at all. P-90s are absolutely terrific sounding. You can get them in humbucker size to drop right in, or you can get P-90 adapter rings to fit humbucker routs.

I found on an s-type made by the same manufacturers that when the humbucker is out along with the pickup ring (it's rectangular, what's this "ring" crap?) a P-90 (at least those made by Tonerider) will fit right into the route, no problems. I'm hoping I'll find something similar here... might need a little sanding/routing, but I'd need to have a closer look/take the current humbuckers out.

I actually feel better about this with your comment.

 

[GuitarStv]

or you can get P-90 adapter rings to fit humbucker routs.

You can? I thought most p-90s were physically too big to fit in a humbucker route.

 

[larryguitar]

You can? I thought most p-90s were physically too big to fit in a humbucker route.

They are; too wide (E to e).

Larry

 

[GuitarDoc]

You can? I thought most p-90s were physically too big to fit in a humbucker route.

Well, yes, you are correct, the P-90 is longer than a humbucker. I should have said that it would require routing the guitar's humbucker rout about 1/2" longer to fit the P-90 in. But then the P-90 mounting ring will cover everything.

For example...

https://www.amazon.com/2pc-Soapbar-...refix=p-90+mounting+rings,aps,237&sr=8-7&th=1

 

[Lucius Paisley]

As I said, the same manufacturers are responsible for the routing on this guitar, and the Tonerider Vintage 90 fit perfectly.



Maybe it's different, as I said, I'd need to measure.

 

[AlexR]

And thats even before ignoring the range of humbucker sized p90's that are well known to exist.......

 

[piblock]

I have this Epiphone 339 which I've been planning on wiring and flipping for over a year, but haven't gotten around to it. I've been thinking about tricking it out with Harmonic Design Z 90s (not exactly P90s) and a Floyd Rose FRX. It will probably just sit in the closet for another year, but I still like the idea.

 

[Lucius Paisley]

And thats even before ignoring the range of humbucker sized p90's that are well known to exist.......

Which I don't consider to be P90s.

 

[JB6464]

Which I don't consider to be P90s.

I do, so long as they are not stacked for hum cancelling, then they would actually be a humbucker.
The Phat Cat P-90 may not be exactly the same as a soapbar P-90, but it's damn close.
Then again there are so many different types of P90 builds, which ones are the right one.

 

[GuitarStv]

Which I don't consider to be P90s.

If you split to the P90 part of the P-Rails it's actually a full sized p90 coil under there, they just chopped away the housing.

 

[AlexR]

Which I don't consider to be P90s.

Probably because you haven't bothered to look into them closely at all.
The geometry is fractionally different, but the results if wound with care are quite close. Previous forumite here who wound Zhangbucker pickups did a really good version that would certainly give anything but a boutique regular shaped p90 a good beating.

 

[Lucius Paisley]

Probably because you haven't bothered to look into them closely at all.
The geometry is fractionally different, but the results if wound with care are quite close. Previous forumite here who wound Zhangbucker pickups did a really good version that would certainly give anything but a boutique regular shaped p90 a good beating.

With so many conditions, it only tells me you don't consider humbucker shaped to be P90s either.

 

[AlexR]

I can only assume you are speaking a different language to english if you think I have included any conditions in my post.

But as you seem to be wanting to try and put words in my mouth to try and support your own agenda, be assured I will make sure never again try to help you.

 

[GuitarDoc]

P-90s are my first love of pups. I have some buckers that I also love but nothing compares to a good P-90. I've got lots of soapbars but I also have LOTS of bucker-sized P-90s. I haven't found any bucker-sized yet that I don't "like", but I have to agree, to a point, that they sound a bit different than a soapbar.

That being said, I have quite a few bucker-sized P-90s that I absolutely love because they sound totally awesome and hard to distinguish from a good soapbar.

You know, just like any pup, there is a lot of variety in sounds available from a P-90 (soapbar or bucker-sized). It's not like it either sounds like a P-90 or it doesn't! I have some soapbars that sound thin and lifeless and some that sound bold enough to blow the top of my amp off (I just finished a build with a set of inexpensive soapbars that I tried out yesterday...all I can say is OH....MY....GOSH!!!!!).

Same thing with the bucker-sized ones. If you haven't tried many of them, you can't judge them.

 

[GuitarDoc]

I just want to add that the "oh my gosh" soapbars were A5s. They're in a cottonwood burl guitar. I also finished another guitar yesterday with ceramic mag soapbars that sound great, but too much of the brittle/piercing ceramic high end. I'm gonna take 'em out and put in A8s or A6s and see what they sound like.

I'm going to post pics of these guitars as well as a couple others I just finished. Maybe later today or tomorrow.

 

[Lucius Paisley]

I just want to add that the "oh my gosh" soapbars were A5s. They're in a cottonwood burl guitar. I also finished another guitar yesterday with ceramic mag soapbars that sound great, but too much of the brittle/piercing ceramic high end. I'm gonna take 'em out and put in A8s or A6s and see what they sound like.

I'm going to post pics of these guitars as well as a couple others I just finished. Maybe later today or tomorrow.

I look forward to seeing them.

 

[JohnnyGuitarCA]

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