Floyd rose sucks

wyldeguy

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I have come to the conclusion that its just not worth it

-break a string guitar is ****ed
-hassle setting it up
-hassle intonating the damn thing
-thins the guitars tone since a lot of wood has been gutted form the guitar
-severely brightens the guitars sound
-kills sustain
-looks ugly
-used as a crutch for people who cant really play guitar


I am personally done with them.
 
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I Like the vintage strat bridge for looks and function the best....I never use my Floyd Rose strat,in fact I canabilized it and took the pickups out of it and stuck them into my recent blonde strat...
 
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I have come to the conclusion that its just not worth it

-break a string guitar is ****ed
-hassle setting it up
-hassle intonating the damn thing
-thins the guitars tone since a lot of wood has been gutted form the guitar
-severely brightens the guitars sound
-kills sustain
-looks ugly
-used as a crutch for people who cant really play guitar


I am personally done with them.

Sooooo....Vai, Satch, Petrucci, and Van Halen can't really play guitar?
 
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Sooooo....Vai, Satch, Petrucci, and Van Halen can't really play guitar?

Sounds just like a frustration venting! I have been doing the same all week! ;o) Floyds really are a PITA to setup though...Gotta agree...

I get all of the vibrato from my wrist and fingers and I'm not a divebomber,so the FR is a moot point in my case...Lol
 
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ya Floyds can be a pain, and i know for a fact they change the tone of a guitar... but i still use them... my Wolfgang sounds killer, it has a FRO on it with a tall block, not the Peavey trem... my Charvel has a FRO, my Jackson has a Schaller.... all work well and i've used these guitars a lot, they stay in tune... and yes these 3 axes sound good

What i hate is i have a few other axes with cheap floyd copies and they really suck bad!!!!!!!

a hardtail bridge or a non-locking with a bone nut is a qreat thing... and i use a lot of those too... but a great guitar is a great guitar no matter the hardware on it... rock what works, forget the rest
 
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Seems a FR replacing a stock vintage style Fender bridge makes the guitar brighter? At least thats what I remember.
 
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Seems a FR replacing a stock vintage style Fender bridge makes the guitar brighter? At least thats what I remember.

i wrecked a great sounding parts strat by adding a cheap floyd to it and taking the Gotoh vintage 6screw and bone nut off... that is for sure... and i will not do that again...

but the guitars i do have made for a Floyd from day one, that work well with a Floyd, and do sound good to me, i'll use anytime...
 
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The path to tonal Nirvana is neither fast or cheap. Might be ugly, too.

Actually I preferred the tone of the Floyd (Gotoh) on a demo I've heard on 2 similar 2-humbucker guitars, only difference being the bridge. YMMV.

I never thought the Floyd was that difficult to deal with. Intonation can be a pain without "The Key" tool.
 
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I have come to the conclusion that its just not worth it

-break a string guitar is ****ed
-hassle setting it up
-hassle intonating the damn thing
-thins the guitars tone since a lot of wood has been gutted form the guitar
-severely brightens the guitars sound
-kills sustain
-looks ugly
-used as a crutch for people who cant really play guitar


I am personally done with them.

They're not for everyone. They're not for me, either. But a lot of modern "masters" have done their thing with them.

That said, different strokes.
 
Re: Floyd rose sucks

I have come to the conclusion that its just not worth it

-break a string guitar is ****ed
-hassle setting it up
-hassle intonating the damn thing
-thins the guitars tone since a lot of wood has been gutted form the guitar
-severely brightens the guitars sound
-kills sustain
-looks ugly
-used as a crutch for people who cant really play guitar


I am personally done with them.

For me Numbers 1,2,3,4,5, do not apply if you set the floyd to dive only
as far as looking ugly thats a matter of opinion and the comment about it being for players that can play, well i wont even get into that one!:)
 
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Well you don't have to float it. Then you can only bend down but if you break a string you are still in tune.
 
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"I have come to the conclusion that its just not worth it

-break a string guitar is ****ed
-hassle setting it up
-hassle intonating the damn thing..."

'Sounds like you're using the wrong strings. I'll concur, if you switch to different/alternate tunings, and/or change string gauges/brands frequently, then a Floyd equipped guitar will make life difficult. My FR guitars get one setup that stays, and they give me no trouble. In fact, more often than my other guitars, I pick 'em up and they need no tuning to start playing.
 
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i love performing in front of audiences with a Floyd... must be the 80's in me... i don't use the dive bomb stunts like i used to... but with the lock nut i find i can beat the strings hard and over bend and stay in tune better then most axes i own... i kind of like the new EVH Hardtail designs with the Locknut...

a while back i realized i have too many strat style axes with trems in general... been wanting more hardtail and mahogany axes... wanted to buy a PRS Singlecut at Xmas... came home with a LUKE LOL....
 
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Yeah, I get all that - I stick to using 9s and things are fine. Once you set the intonation you shouldn't have to re-do it unless you're changing gauges. Also when changing strings, one at a time is what I find best to keep the setup the way I have it.

I don't use the Floyd that much these days in terms of what it was designed for; when I'm playing my own stuff, it's mostly subtle vibrato, but I like the overall tuning stability it affords. I prefer non recessed ones too

As for thin tone, well, I think it's something people overemphasize or they're playing POS guitars to begin with. One thing I notice as a general rule is that a Floyded guitar has softer attack than a fixed bridge one, a bit like the difference between a valve and SS rectifier in an amp.
 
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The obvious troll post somehow didnt work this time :lol:
 
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i'm currently "getting used to" a (non-licensed) Edge III bridge in my new (to me) Ibanez Xiphos. It's a neck-thru, but I think the floating bridge definitely contributes to the factors ranted about here. The look doesn't bother me, but the setup and intonation on these things is painful. Glad this particular type doesn't need the Key to intonate :eyecrazy:

I also note it makes you reach farther to bend, since the floating bridge "gives" when you tighten a string (another common issue with Floyds, or so I hear). I much prefer the Kahler cam trems, and nowadays those can be had for less than an OFR and installed by almost anybody who got better than a "D" in Wood Shop. Wish more guitars came with them.

The sustain on the Ibanez was still very good, but it got better after I put in the Backbox I got from the guy that sells them on Ebay (FYI - I don't work for this guy, or know him, I just bought the thing from him). After a day or two of setting it up, I think it does what it's supposed to more or less, and in the process it addresses the sustain and over-brightness issues (so now I'll be looking for a new bridge PU :)).

The main thing I was looking to fix tho, was the tuning stability - I did not previously know that Floyds go out of tune when you rotate the guitar toward the floor or ceiling. Yea yea, have your giggles, I told you I like Kahlers right?

Doing it right required tightening up the trem springs quite a bit (to compensate for the over-bending issue), and for me it required a fair bit of tension on the Backbox so pull-ups are harder now too. I've read that you can set it up so tight that when you break a string you'll stay in tune, but I don't want to go that far. It's plenty tight where it is :P

Also worth noting, it makes the subtle vibrato effects a lot harder to do since there's a "notch" in the trem action, and it flat-out kills the "flutter" tricks that some people like. I don't like these effects personally, and I actually find that I like the feel of the bridge stuck in the "notch" better - it's almost like playing a fixed-bridge, pretty stable. Again tho, the downside is that you have to work a fair bit harder to get your whammy on.

+1 on POS guitars w/ cut-rate Floyd copies - played so many of those that I wouldn't wish on anyone. With a "real deal" OFR or good copy, you only have to deal with the OP's list :P I'm glad this Ibanez bridge isn't nearly as bad as some ppl say it is :approve:

The Backbox may help if you can deal with the extra tension; it adds a fair bit of sustain like a block, but still allows for pull-ups. But, there's no getting around #s 2 or 3, and to fix #4 you'd have to cut blocks and fill in the trem cavity and swimming-pool to hopefully get some resonance back. May have to just sell all your FR guitars eh?
 
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kills sustain? tell that to my 2 floyd-equiped les pauls... those monsters sustain for ages!

brightens the tone? tell that to my 2 floyd-equiped les pauls; they have a sweet, singing highs with solid lows and huge mids!

Intonation: do it once, and then it's set forever.

hassle setting it up: not a big deal, it's as difficult or easy as a wilkinson.

The only thing I don't like about a floyd is that I always lose my hex key for the lock on the bridge. I don't use locking nuts, just locking tuners and a graphtech nut.
 
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