fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

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millenofx77

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hi,
i have a set of fralin vintage hot, in my strat, and i change the fralin bridge for a duncan antiquity texas hot.
i have a probleme with the bridge+middle position (fralin+duncan).
at this position the sound is noisy thin and awfull.
but each pickup works perfectly alone.
i think it is probably something about polarity , but i am not very good about this, or phase
do i have to wire differently this pickups, or are they incompatible?

thanx
 
Re: fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

if you switch the two wires on the bridge pup, swap the hot to ground and ground to hot, you should be fine. the two pups are are of phase
 
Re: fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

millenofx77 said:
hi,
i have a set of fralin vintage hot, in my strat, and i change the fralin bridge for a duncan antiquity texas hot.
i have a probleme with the bridge+middle position (fralin+duncan).
at this position the sound is noisy thin and awfull.
but each pickup works perfectly alone.
i think it is probably something about polarity , but i am not very good about this, or phase
do i have to wire differently this pickups, or are they incompatible?

thanx
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I once wanted to use a SD 54' tele bridge pup with my Fender stock American tele neck pup. They both sounded great individually, but after speaking to Maricella Juarez (MJ) in Seymour's Custom Shop, she informed me that some pups are wound north going south OR south going north, and when these opposites are used together (or one with the other) will give you the exact problems that you describe. The simple answer was to re-polarize the magnets in my Fender American Tele Neck pup. I believe she charged me some outrageously cheap amount like $5.00 to do this, and from then on the Duncan and Fender pup worked beautifully together.
 
Re: fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

you can be out of phase in two ways, magnetically and electrically. you can check to see if the pups are magnetically in phase by putting the tops of the two pups together. if they are opposite polarity they will attract.

on tele pups there is a problem that results from the base plate and neck pup cover. both need to be grounded so when you flip the phase electrically youll need to move the ground connection as well. on strat pups this isnt an issue.

flipping the wires will work fine but if you find that when both pups are on they hum then they are not rw/rp
 
Re: fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

jeremy said:
you can be out of phase in two ways, magnetically and electrically. you can check to see if the pups are magnetically in phase by putting the tops of the two pups together. if they are opposite polarity they will attract.

on tele pups there is a problem that results from the base plate and neck pup cover. both need to be grounded so when you flip the phase electrically youll need to move the ground connection as well. on strat pups this isnt an issue.

flipping the wires will work fine but if you find that when both pups are on they hum then they are not rw/rp
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I believe that MJ had to repolarize or remagnetize the Fender American Std. Tele pup to correct the thin out of phase problem that i had in the middle position. I could be wrong but it seems as though this could be the problem that a lot of guys incur when they use two dissimilar manufacturer's pups together in the middle position of a 3 way, or in the 2 and 4 positions of a 5 way switch (if the middle pup is a dissimilar manufactured pup from the neck and bridge manufactured pup brand).
 
Re: fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

there may be a little extra work involved if you guess wrong and have to switch wires but ive never had a problem getting dimarzios, duncans, lollars, fenders, or fralins to play nice with each other.

like i said the tele thing gets harder since the cover on the neck pup and the baseplate on the bridge pup are grounded one of which will have to change.
 
Re: fralin vintage hot+ duncan ant texas hot incompatibility

If it's electrically out of phase, you get the nasal honk in the notch position - flip the leads on the bridge pickup.

If it's magnetically out of phase, the notch position hums - swap the neck and middle pickups and wire them normally.
 
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