Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

[ctesoro]

Trying to wire a JB and Jazz 4-conductor with a 3-way blade switch in a frankenstrat. Position 1&3 standard neck & bridge humbucker. position 2 (middle) to split the outside coil of bridge and inner coil of neck so I can get a little of that strat twang while still canceling the hum. This information is not posted anywhere under wiring diagrams? Any help is much appreciated! Ive attached a photo...

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Go here and scroll to post #38. (2nd page.) Thats basically it. It does, however, use inner bridge coil with outer neck coil, so that all three positions are humbucking.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

thanks - won't the outer bridge and inner neck also remain hum bucking?

 

[925SS]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

one of the coils being used has to be wound the opposite direction of the one it's being paired with to get the hum cancelling effect

 

[ErikH]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Ahh, yes, the virtual 3rd humbucker. That is a cool setup. I wired a guitar up like that for a time a few years ago but eventually went back to the conventional 3-way wiring. Just what I'm used to.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

isn't inner bridge/outer neck = outer bridge/inner neck as far as hum cancelling? I'm trying to get closest sound to strat 5-way position 2 (bridge & middle sc)

 

[ErikH]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Yes, inner bridge/outer neck and outer bridge/inner neck will be hum cancelling. Both combinations are using a screw coil from one and a slug coil from another.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

thats what I figured. Anywhere I can find a wiring diagram of this?

 

[ErikH]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

https://forum.seymourduncan.com/showthread.php?114082-artie-can-you-make-me-a-schematic&p=1454111&viewfull=1#post1454111

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

thanks - won't the outer bridge and inner neck also remain hum bucking?

Yes . . . I'm trying to avoid redrawing that diagram. :14:

one of the coils being used has to be wound the opposite direction of the one it's being paired with to get the hum cancelling effect

Not exactly. Both coils of your average humbucker are wound the same direction. You need either two of three elements to get humbucking:

1. Reverse wind
2. Reverse magnet polarity
3. Reverse coil polarity (swap the two wires.)

A humbucker uses 2 & 3. A Strat RW/RP middle pup uses 1 & 2. Either will work.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

OK Thanks Again ArtieToo - I'll transpose what you sent or just wire it this way. Im having a tough time orienting the switch correctly. It seems the terminals are opposite from what you sent. Where the rutter contacts the lug that is the one thats active correct? See attached pics

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Your switch is exactly the same as the one in my diagram. Note the position of the spring in yours, and note the position of the spring in my diagram. If you duplicate what I've drawn, it will work perfectly. In my diagram, the "top" of the switch points toward the neck. In other words, how it would look if your guitar was sitting in a stand.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Your switch is exactly the same as the one in my diagram. Note the position of the spring in yours, and note the position of the spring in my diagram. If you duplicate what I've drawn, it will work perfectly. In my diagram, the "top" of the switch points toward the neck. In other words, how it would look if your guitar was sitting in a stand.

Wired it up followed the diagram. bridge pickup seems to be working right but the other 2 positions are not. 2 questions: was I to join "A" and "3" as shown? Terminal "A" Bridge Green should also have bare ground attached correct?

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Follow that diagram exactly. Yes, A goes to 3. And A should not be grounded.

The green of the neck coil is the only ground.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Follow that diagram exactly. Yes, A goes to 3. And A should not be grounded.

The green of the neck coil is the only ground.

then where does the bare wire from the bridge pickup go? You have it together with green for the neck pickup....

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Bare does go to ground. Its the chassis of the pickup. It isn't connected to the coils. Sorry, I should make that more clear in that diagram.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Bare does go to ground. Its the chassis of the pickup. It isn't connected to the coils. Sorry, I should make that more clear in that diagram.

does it make a difference together with the green or to top of the pot?

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Definitely not to the green. The green and ground are two separate connections in this wiring scheme. (At least, for the bridge pup.) The back of a pot is fine. Just be careful not to overheat the pot.

 

[ctesoro]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Definitely not to the green. The green and ground are two separate connections in this wiring scheme. (At least, for the bridge pup.) The back of a pot is fine. Just be careful not to overheat the pot.

ok almost there. only problem now is when select neck pup only and tap the coils with screwdriver it seems bridge pup is also on? I double checked all wiring and looks good. Any thoughts? see photos

 

[Artie]

Re: Frankenstrat 3-way blade switch with Hot Rodded Humbuckers wiring help!

Let me look this over. I'll get back to you soon.

I see one possible problem: where you have your neck green and ground, that terminal needs to be grounded to the back of a pot. That bare wire could also go direct to ground, but it doesn't hurt to have it where it is as long as you ground that terminal. Everything else looks fine. (Well, except for funky solder connections.)

One last thing, you probably don't want to mess with this, but if you sent that whole pickgaurd to me, I'd clean up that soldering and wire the whole thing up for you. Free. Just a thought.