From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

[Demanic]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

I can't tell if you are being serious or sarcastic?
All I am saying is that the one live recording I have heard sounded fuller, warmer, and less ice picky than the few studio songs I am familiar with, which made me think the studio recording and mix might have emphasized the aspects of his tone that some don't care for?
OTOH, I think Hell Bent for Leather is full of great rock guitar sounds so I am probably not Pantera's target demographic...

If you, or anyone ever thinks that I am being sarcastic, well, that's a safe bet.
A Safe Bet.

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[weepingminotaur]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

I have never been a huge Pantera fan or hater (don't seek them out, don't change the station when they come on unless it's that long slow thing) but recently I heard a live recording on the radio and his tone was much warmer and [in my ears] better. I was surprised.

I love that early Pantera tone, but it seems like it would be pretty hard to replicate live in a band setting, where you need mids to cut through the mix and a scooped tone just won't cut it.

 

[DavidRavenMoon]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

Pantera... not exactly renowned for gorgeous tone.


Ymmv

Well that Dimebucker is copy of a Lawrence L-500XL, which is a very bright pickup. Unlike something like a JB, you can get an L-500 sparkling clean.


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[blind1]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

I'm a big fan of Pantera's music but like others have said, Dime isn't exactly known for his tone or extensive rig setup.

You should just find your own sound.

I personally wouldn't go with such high output pickups like the Dimebucker or Invader. They'll be fine under high gain situations but they won't clean up at all (think about it like whispering into a megaphone.. it still sounds like a megaphone). Medium output pickups have more clarity and punch, but with less compression overall... food for thought. Whatever you hear on albums and records is a processed sound that isn't worth the trouble of imitating; just do you.

Rather than spending over $200 to upgrade a $99 guitar.. I suggest saving up and buying a high quality guitar first. Also your amp plays a crucial role in the soundscape and just speaking from personal experience, I am not crazy about the DSL40C.. have no experience with the CR, but if they are anything similar, I would look into changing amps. I find the clean channel to be decent on this amp, but the overdrive channels are less than desirable. So, swap amps too. Otherwise, you can swap pickups in and out of your Indio 66 all day long and still not ever be satisfied with the rig and you'll be left scratching your head wondering what pickups to try next.


TL;DR: medium to low output pickups > super high gain compressed pickups; upgrade to pro guitar and amp first. Then play the pickup switching game if you really want to.

 

[Dave Locher]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

If you, or anyone ever thinks that I am being sarcastic, well, that's a safe bet.
A Safe Bet.

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I thought so. Maybe "full" would have been a better adjective on my part. It sounded bigger and more full. Definitely not warm, heaven forbid.

 

[InbredJunk]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

Well, the Alice in Chains sound is undoubtedly a Seymour Duncan Jb. Pair that with a jazz in the neck, and your as good as gold. Throw in a push pull potentiometer for a coil split on both pickups, and you'll have exactly what you asked for. A heavy Alice in Chains type of rhythm tone, and a sparkling, bright clean tone.

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[InbredJunk]

Re: From chunky rhythms to bright clean tones

Something else to add, that Man in the Box tone was recorded with a modded marshall jcm 800 2x12 combo, the same one used to record zakk wylde on ozzy Osbournes no more tears album. That marshall dsl40 that you have should get you pretty close.

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