Fuzzy pedals.

blindedbysilence

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I want to get a new fuzz box and after listening to some clips, I'm thinking I may get two. The Analogman sun face pedal doesn't seem like it has a whole lot of fuzz on tap, but is still an awesome sounding pedal. The tonebender mkII Clones sound really cool, then I came across the ARC effects crimson king, which is based on a Baldwin Burns Buzzaround pedal. That thing has a lot of nasty fuzz on tap and cleans up nicely with your volume control. I don't think buying all three makes much sense, but damn they are all awesome.
 
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the analogman nkt fuzzface is lovely. Very natural and responsive to your nuances and volume control. The downside like all good fuzzfaces is that it only sounds its best when its the only thing in the signal chain.
There are of course a myriad of other fuzzes out there. What kind of sounds are you after? whats your amp and what else will be in the chain?
 
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A lot of the reading I've done indicted the analogman pedal works best with single coils, don't know how true this could be. I'll be running the pedal with 6 other pedals and using mini hums. Mostly alt country type stuff, southern rock, and early rock a la the stones, zeppelin, cream etc.
 
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i use a sunface with humbuckers. it is a beautiful thing. its also beautiful with singles coils. Having a bias control is cool and getting the input trimmed just right is part of it too.
However, if you are using a chain of pedals, its not as much fun as it should be - even if all the pedals are turned off, you can still notice the sound of the fuzzface getting contricted if any one of the other pedals has a buffer in the circuit. All fuzz faces are like this, but i think it is even more pronounced with germanium ones.

I think, unless you are a one pedal kind of guy then you would be better off with a pedal that works well in a team. Any of the big muff inspired pedals work fine (although they dont sound like fuzzfaces). I really like tho voodoo labs superfuzz too because it is a lot more defined than a muff and you can tailor its bass and mid response easily, although its extra predictability comes at the cost of a fuzzface's sensetivity to the volume control.

Wait till TGWHIF chimes in for encycolpedic knowledge on fuzzes, but what i have learned is that no single fuzz can do everything perfectly. In a 6 pedal setup, one that sounds good in a chain should be a priority.
 
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i use a sunface with humbuckers. it is a beautiful thing. its also beautiful with singles coils. Having a bias control is cool and getting the input trimmed just right is part of it too.
However, if you are using a chain of pedals, its not as much fun as it should be - even if all the pedals are turned off, you can still notice the sound of the fuzzface getting contricted if any one of the other pedals has a buffer in the circuit. All fuzz faces are like this, but i think it is even more pronounced with germanium ones.

I think, unless you are a one pedal kind of guy then you would be better off with a pedal that works well in a team. Any of the big muff inspired pedals work fine (although they dont sound like fuzzfaces). I really like tho voodoo labs superfuzz too because it is a lot more defined than a muff and you can tailor its bass and mid response easily, although its extra predictability comes at the cost of a fuzzface's sensetivity to the volume control.

Wait till TGWHIF chimes in for encycolpedic knowledge on fuzzes, but what i have learned is that no single fuzz can do everything perfectly. In a 6 pedal setup, one that sounds good in a chain should be a priority.

the voodoo labs super fuzz is muffish but clearer and better mid response ??

I might have to look into this one , I'm just using a Hot Tubes stacked into a clean Stone Deaf PDF-1 for fuzz now. Sounds pretty clear and good but the high strings are not as thick as my Muff used to be.... BUT the muff was very boomy and muddy too.

Sorry to derail the thread!
 
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No its not really muffish in its sounds. Its based on a jordan bosstone so its a different circuit, but yeah it is clearer and has better and more tweakable mid response. Its cool to be able to dial in the right amount of bass and mid. Very good for singing leads. I reckon as a fuzz pedal the best way to describe it is that it has "ramshead" (for those who are familiar with different types of big muff) like gain levels, but the tonality, compression and definition is one step closer to a RAT type distortion pedal.
ok...back to normal programming.
 
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Check out the blackout effectors musket, I have one for sale/trade too haha
 
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I have a bunch of fuzzes in my collection...Fuzz Faces/Sunfaces, Tone Benders (a MK I, a MK 1.5, a MK II and a Supa Fuzz), Muffs, a Tone Machine clone, etc and I have to tell ya...I come back to a Fuzz Face more then any other fuzz.

I find them to be the most musical and the most dynamic of any fuzz I own.

Tone Benders are great and offer more FUZZ than most Fuzz Faces but IME they don't clean up as well and are sort of one trick pony...sure, it's a sick trick but it is still just one trick.

I do not own a Buzzaround so far but I have tried a few...they are neat but I haven't tried one yet that made me feel like I had to have it.

As for Fuzz Faces/Sunfaces...I do NOT believe that they are only good with single coils...in fact one of my all time fav benchmark tones is a Les Paul, Fuzz Face and a Marshall!!!

Dig this...The solo is a 70's LP Standard, a late 60's small box Marshall on a 4x12 and a Fuzz Face...

Solo starts at 3:01...smokin'!

 
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Let me also add one thing...if you do not know about the guy you are buying from BE CAREFUL!!!

There are a LOT of cats out there right now offering fuzz boxes made with NOS trannys and MANY of them are using fakes, sometimes the fakes in question are so good that the builder doesn't even know they are fake.

Now, fake NOS trannys might still sound GREAT however you will pay a premium for them and if they are not the real deal then there is no need for paying extra and if you ever sell it them you'll loose BIG money.
 
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What's your opinion of the Analogman pedals in conjunction with several other pedals? That is my biggest worry there. If I go the MKII route, I haven't decided on a seller. As for the Buzzaround, it would be the ARC effects crimson king.
 
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The thing about old GE fuzzfaces as is obvious by now, is that they can be complete tone turds due to the mish-mash of old original GE transistors used at the time of their production.

I've heard that guys like EJ went through about a hundred before he had his very important selected collection of them. Makes you wonder how many out there now for sale original and so expensive, sound terrible... and thats why they are trying to be be unloaded and on the market at such an expensive cost..

Probably all the good ones are now safely hoarded away.
 
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Wah, overdrive, compressor, delay, volume, modulation, and a tuner.

No better or worse than any other fuzz rally...

Fuzz boxes in general don't like buffers and they don't like being after wah pedals if you want to use the fuzz and wah together.

Big Muffs are different in those terms but they are not the norm, they are the exception.

So, what really matters is what kind of wah, overdrive, compressor, delay, volume, modulation, and tuner are you talking about and in what order do you want to use them in with the fuzz inline??
 
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