G and L Fallout
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VinceT
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Re: G and L Fallout
Hmmm... I haven't played one, but it has similar spec to my Reverend Double Agent, PRS S2 Vela, and Jackson Surfcaster. The Fallout doesn't grab me in any way as those three guitars did. It would have to be an astounding player to get me interested - and while I've been impressed by G&L quality, they've never struck me as anything too special when I've played them.
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Hmmm... I haven't played one, but it has similar spec to my Reverend Double Agent, PRS S2 Vela, and Jackson Surfcaster. The Fallout doesn't grab me in any way as those three guitars did. It would have to be an astounding player to get me interested - and while I've been impressed by G&L quality, they've never struck me as anything too special when I've played them.
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ItsaBass
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They're really cool, but unfortunately you don't get anywhere near the same number of custom options to choose from on them as you do on a A-SATs and Legacys. Unless they have changed things since they first introduced them, you only have one or two necks from which to pick. Since I'm not really a fan of G&L's standard profile, their 12" radius, and their big, tall frets, the custom order necks not being available is a little bit of a bummer to me.
That said, I can easily play around my ideal preferences if the guitar as a whole impresses me. After all, I do own two G&Ls with all the standard neck features.
They're really cool, but unfortunately you don't get anywhere near the same number of custom options to choose from on them as you do on a A-SATs and Legacys. Unless they have changed things since they first introduced them, you only have one or two necks from which to pick. Since I'm not really a fan of G&L's standard profile, their 12" radius, and their big, tall frets, the custom order necks not being available is a little bit of a bummer to me.
That said, I can easily play around my ideal preferences if the guitar as a whole impresses me. After all, I do own two G&Ls with all the standard neck features.
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Boogie Bill
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They are not my cup of tea, as I'm a Legacy-body player. But....I think they are a FUN guitar! Some versatile tones available, and if you're looking for something a little "different"...go for it.
Bill
They are not my cup of tea, as I'm a Legacy-body player. But....I think they are a FUN guitar! Some versatile tones available, and if you're looking for something a little "different"...go for it.
Bill
blueman335
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I've never understood that term in a musical context, either for a guitar or a player. Do those guys have really basic guitars and don't smile much? Does that mean the rest of us have 'nonsense' guitars, and play in 'nonsense' styles? Would almost all of our guitar heroes, at least mine, fall into the 'nonsense' category? Would that make Hendrix a nonsense player? From what I can gather, I don't have much interest in listening to 'no nonsense' guitarists. I like to listen to guys that go above and beyond what's required, and take things to the next level (like All Along the Watchtower and Voodoo Child).
Not trying to give you a hard time, as it's a term I've heard a lot over the years and it continues to elude me. It's always used in a positive context, but it doesn't seem all that appealing to me. Maybe I've been conditioned by the late '60's/early '70's bands I've listened to.
I've never understood that term in a musical context, either for a guitar or a player. Do those guys have really basic guitars and don't smile much? Does that mean the rest of us have 'nonsense' guitars, and play in 'nonsense' styles? Would almost all of our guitar heroes, at least mine, fall into the 'nonsense' category? Would that make Hendrix a nonsense player? From what I can gather, I don't have much interest in listening to 'no nonsense' guitarists. I like to listen to guys that go above and beyond what's required, and take things to the next level (like All Along the Watchtower and Voodoo Child).
Not trying to give you a hard time, as it's a term I've heard a lot over the years and it continues to elude me. It's always used in a positive context, but it doesn't seem all that appealing to me. Maybe I've been conditioned by the late '60's/early '70's bands I've listened to.
Nostalgic Distortion
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I love mine!!! The stock bridge pup sucks I.M.H.O. but I don't like J.B.'s all that much? I ripped it out, put in a Pegasus, kept the Paul Gagnon P-90, & never looked back!!!
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I love mine!!! The stock bridge pup sucks I.M.H.O. but I don't like J.B.'s all that much? I ripped it out, put in a Pegasus, kept the Paul Gagnon P-90, & never looked back!!!
Boogie Bill
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In this context, I took it to mean "a guitar without cosmetic frills". A Les Paul Studio Faded vis-a-vis a LP Custom or a Supreme. Or, using a less valuable guitar like a Jay Turser in the bar with the chicken wire around the stage as opposed to your '50s vintage LP.
I love seeing and hearing Billy Gibsons and Rick Nielsen use their vintage axes, but a guy like Henry Garza of Los Lonely Boys does amazing things with a MIM Strat.
Bill
In this context, I took it to mean "a guitar without cosmetic frills". A Les Paul Studio Faded vis-a-vis a LP Custom or a Supreme. Or, using a less valuable guitar like a Jay Turser in the bar with the chicken wire around the stage as opposed to your '50s vintage LP.
I love seeing and hearing Billy Gibsons and Rick Nielsen use their vintage axes, but a guy like Henry Garza of Los Lonely Boys does amazing things with a MIM Strat.
Bill
blueman335
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Which is where I've seen the term used for guitars, and that's fine on it's own, but the flip side is there's the implication that guitars 'with cosmetic frills' such as a better finish, bigger inlays (that can be seen on a dark stage), a 2nd PU, a vol and tone for each PU, etc are somehow 'nonsense' instruments suited for the indulgences of narcissists and dandies. An LP Std Burst with 4 pots, 2 PU's, and a flame top would qualify as a 'nonsense' guitar, although they've made some of the best and heaviest rock and roll in the world. Look at what Hendrix did with a guitar with the 'frills' of 3 PU's and a vibrato bar. He couldn't have done all of that with an LP Jr. I guess that's what confuses me: most of the rock/blues/metal we listen to is played on 'nonsense' guitars, far more than has been done with 'no nonsense' guitars. So why the derogatory implication that these rockers are using guitars loaded with unnecessary frills and extras. They're using those frills, in ways the original designers never imagined.
I can see where a Gretsch could be considered overdone and gaudy. A White Falcon looks like it's designed by Liberace. But an SG Std is a pretty simple guitar to begin with, and I don't see that taking away the neck PU and making the fret inlays smaller, somehow takes away the 'nonsense.'
Which is where I've seen the term used for guitars, and that's fine on it's own, but the flip side is there's the implication that guitars 'with cosmetic frills' such as a better finish, bigger inlays (that can be seen on a dark stage), a 2nd PU, a vol and tone for each PU, etc are somehow 'nonsense' instruments suited for the indulgences of narcissists and dandies. An LP Std Burst with 4 pots, 2 PU's, and a flame top would qualify as a 'nonsense' guitar, although they've made some of the best and heaviest rock and roll in the world. Look at what Hendrix did with a guitar with the 'frills' of 3 PU's and a vibrato bar. He couldn't have done all of that with an LP Jr. I guess that's what confuses me: most of the rock/blues/metal we listen to is played on 'nonsense' guitars, far more than has been done with 'no nonsense' guitars. So why the derogatory implication that these rockers are using guitars loaded with unnecessary frills and extras. They're using those frills, in ways the original designers never imagined.
I can see where a Gretsch could be considered overdone and gaudy. A White Falcon looks like it's designed by Liberace. But an SG Std is a pretty simple guitar to begin with, and I don't see that taking away the neck PU and making the fret inlays smaller, somehow takes away the 'nonsense.'
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Well, I understand it that it would be a player not concerned with bling, cachet, and that utilize a few very basic and classic sounds without much variation. He/she doesn't need a high-performance machine, because their playing doesn't demand it. It isn't a positive or negative description, it just is. You won't hear these players obsess over 3 octave arpeggios, and probably will never play a #11 chord, and that is fine with them.
Well, I understand it that it would be a player not concerned with bling, cachet, and that utilize a few very basic and classic sounds without much variation. He/she doesn't need a high-performance machine, because their playing doesn't demand it. It isn't a positive or negative description, it just is. You won't hear these players obsess over 3 octave arpeggios, and probably will never play a #11 chord, and that is fine with them.
JB_From_Hell
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blueman335
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Thanks, I was trying to put some humor in it. In my mind I picture 'no nonsense' players as not being able to afford a guitar with two PU's and having a stern expression on their face all the time. Intense dudes, into what they're doing, but not particularly good players. This is all just speculation on my part.
Thanks, I was trying to put some humor in it. In my mind I picture 'no nonsense' players as not being able to afford a guitar with two PU's and having a stern expression on their face all the time. Intense dudes, into what they're doing, but not particularly good players. This is all just speculation on my part.
TRex
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No nonsense means different things to different people.
A Les Paul studio is a no nonsense Standard to me. No over the top visual/cosmetic options.
While "no nonsense" no switches, one PU guitars are often cheaper, they are also easy to gig and use. For example, The Neck pickup is often wasted in a punk band, so as to keep it simple they get a guitar that does everything they need. They may go with a Strat with a single humbucker in the bridge, or a LPJ or whatever.
It's a preference thing. I personally would use a 2 pickup Les Paul as my go to guitar in the studio and gigs, but a LPJ would make a cool backup.
They get a guitar that takes less time to repair, and less to fail (electrically).
No nonsense means different things to different people.
A Les Paul studio is a no nonsense Standard to me. No over the top visual/cosmetic options.
While "no nonsense" no switches, one PU guitars are often cheaper, they are also easy to gig and use. For example, The Neck pickup is often wasted in a punk band, so as to keep it simple they get a guitar that does everything they need. They may go with a Strat with a single humbucker in the bridge, or a LPJ or whatever.
It's a preference thing. I personally would use a 2 pickup Les Paul as my go to guitar in the studio and gigs, but a LPJ would make a cool backup.
They get a guitar that takes less time to repair, and less to fail (electrically).
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