G string blues.......

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BriGuy1968 said:
“Click of death” sound?
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That "ping" sound. So, it's probably the nut. :eek:

Well this is getting kinda ridiculous that I have to swap out the LSR a 3rd time, OR have a bone nut put in (I don't trust any tech in this area.....so that would mean shipping and ...... I'm spent)

I think I'm going to block the damn thing.

Thanks for the replies.
 
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toowrongfoo said:
That "ping" sound. So, it's probably the nut. :eek:

Well this is getting kinda ridiculous that I have to swap out the LSR a 3rd time, OR have a bone nut put in (I don't trust any tech in this area.....so that would mean shipping and ...... I'm spent)

I think I'm going to block the damn thing.

Thanks for the replies.
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Try widening that slot just a smidge... it’s worth a shot before you just replace it again. It really isn’t uncommon for a new nut to need a little “fine tuning.”
 
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I think those LSRs were pretty specific to string sizes, so if you used something bigger than was specified, then I can see it happening.
 
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Just curious...did you try using the nut sauce on the SADDLES?

Is any part of the ball-end wrap touching the apex of the saddle(s)?

If it isn't the saddles, it has to be the nut. I'd get a can of compressed air and blow out that saddle...they have to be CLEAN. If it is still hanging up, I would use some kind of lube. Use the micro-brush that came with the Big Bend's and just put a tiny dab on that roller, or something like a small dot of the Mil-Spec brand gun oil, Mobil One, etc.

Bill
 
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Yeah, I sauced it all up good last set. Didn't do squat. That's why I'm skeptical about the nut. You'd think it would do something.
 
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This will likely change tomorrow (story of my life) but I decided to change the springs from standard 3 spring spacing to the "V" and there is, at least for now, a difference. These are the "noiseless" springs and are stiffer than the norm anyways, but I think it's weird and just furthers the mystery.
 
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toowrongfoo said:
It's just 9-46, but yes, I would totally understand that.
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Just for an experiment- try a G string from a 9-42 set (I am not sure what size is on the guitar now). I wonder if that would stay in tune better.
 
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those both probably have a 16 gauge 3rd string, they dont get heavier till the wound strings.

do the balls in the nut roll smoothly if you move the string in the slot? the ping sure sounds like the but is binding
 
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jeremy said:
those both probably have a 16 gauge 3rd string, they dont get heavier till the wound strings.

do the balls in the nut roll smoothly if you move the string in the slot? the ping sure sounds like the but is binding
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Yes, they are the same. You mean nut right? :lol:
 
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yes, unless there are other issues you havent mentioned
 
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Ok, Houston? We've had a problem.

The knife edges are ROTTEN :lol:

The whole thing needs to be replaced. Fender, this is unforgivable. NO WAY should a guitar 5 years old be that shot. We're talking MAJOR wear.

Honestly at this point I think I block it and get a Suhr. I don't wanna put anymore money into this thing.

Thanks for all the feedback.
 
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Dang, that makes it even weirder, you got a damaged tremolo unit and only the g goes out of tune. It's especially odd because the other strings stay in tune with tremolo use, but the g loses its tuning even when you bend it. Really odd indeed.
 
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As others have said, the nut is the usual suspect for that behavior, but if it is the saddles, as nice as Callaham is, the graphite is the solution.
 
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Chistopher said:
Dang, that makes it even weirder, you got a damaged tremolo unit and only the g goes out of tune. It's especially odd because the other strings stay in tune with tremolo use, but the g loses its tuning even when you bend it. Really odd indeed.
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you are right, but the pitch changes noticeably more on G, low E, the strings with the heaviest core.
Now, if it is indeed the knife edges, floyd rose, Ibanez ppl have a long history with various techniques to repair this (like sharpening the existing knife edges).

BTW A trem stabilizer : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jsxfKyhu2Do&t=12s would solve your problems . I have bought this specific one and is great.
 
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What I've done is ditched the trem (w/o a proper block) , locked it down and have it totally flush.

I agree with what you guys are saying about the nut but nut sauce ought to at LEAST help. Absolutely not all. Not even a tiny bit. It wasn't that way when I got it. It was fine unless I did crazy stuff and again, the LSR has been replaced once. Yeah, with FR usually the whole thing is sharp/flat.

With it locked down and flush with no arm I can now "we eee EEE" and still in tune. Good enough for the time being.

I should have taken a pic, it's unrepairable. They knife edges basically are like they were hit with a nuke. They are mangled. I'm surprised it stayed in tune at all.
 
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