Gaps in the product line?
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beaubrummels
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
+1, but for humbucker
My understanding is most production PAF humbuckers were A4, with some A3s out there also. Why aren't '59s, Seths and Antiquities offered in A4 / A3?
+1, but for humbucker
My understanding is most production PAF humbuckers were A4, with some A3s out there also. Why aren't '59s, Seths and Antiquities offered in A4 / A3?
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Funkfingers
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
To date, the choice is one or the other.
As soon as a second coil is introduced, some of the P90 Goodness is lost. Also, slapping a metal cover around a P90 coil detracts from the balance of frequencies that it produces through overdriven valve amplification.
To date, the choice is one or the other.
As soon as a second coil is introduced, some of the P90 Goodness is lost. Also, slapping a metal cover around a P90 coil detracts from the balance of frequencies that it produces through overdriven valve amplification.
Ptolemaeus
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
I mean, there's the El Diablo with an A2, but that's Custom Shop. I could get behind a new wind and a new magnet.
I mean, there's the El Diablo with an A2, but that's Custom Shop. I could get behind a new wind and a new magnet.
vinta9e
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
Could the combination of calibrated magnet and full bobbins prevent the '78 from being a production item, perhaps?
In my neck of the woods, it seems that whatever gap there is, it's not in the product line but in marketing. There's the ubiquitous JB/Jazz and there's the long tail of the other 100 models. If you can pull off high quality demos and get exposure, the slow sellers should rise to life, and hopefully, widen your appeal. When the Seymour Duncan Co is perceived as one that caters to all tastes (vintage & modern, jazzmen, metalheads, classic rockers, frugal & flamboyant, etc), you win.
Could the combination of calibrated magnet and full bobbins prevent the '78 from being a production item, perhaps?
How about those who are not into eighties metal hide under a big boulder in the middle of the desert and just stay there? :smash:
The 59n has been used in thousands of Jackson Soloists and ESP M-IIs, keeping pace with hot bridge pickups, roaring amps and blazing players. These days, dominated by high gain and digital modeling, when non master volume amps have become white elephants, the "either vintage or balls out" division is overstated IMHO.
I'd venture a guess that Duncan's custom shop has pretty much built their repution on their ability to read and interpret players' descriptions of what they want in a pickup and then building to meet and exceed expectations. As long as they don't have a problem understanding those flowery adjectives, there's nothing to worry about.
In my neck of the woods, it seems that whatever gap there is, it's not in the product line but in marketing. There's the ubiquitous JB/Jazz and there's the long tail of the other 100 models. If you can pull off high quality demos and get exposure, the slow sellers should rise to life, and hopefully, widen your appeal. When the Seymour Duncan Co is perceived as one that caters to all tastes (vintage & modern, jazzmen, metalheads, classic rockers, frugal & flamboyant, etc), you win.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: Gaps in the product line?
Calig has this one with an A5:
and this one with a Neodymium:
(That one is also a standard humbucker configuration, so you could swap in an A5 or A8 if you wanted)
Calig has this one with an A5:
and this one with a Neodymium:
(That one is also a standard humbucker configuration, so you could swap in an A5 or A8 if you wanted)
Ptolemaeus
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
That's amazing, but my point still stands. There is a lack of medium output neck options in the catalog. Besides the fact you can get all the tones you want with a 59n or Jazzn or (insert pickup here) by tweaking your amp, there's still a tonality associated with an output of 9.5-11.5k that you can't capture with a high output or low output pickup.
Personally, I find that range to be ideal for my style, which is switching between pickups without having to kick in a drive pedal to get the saturation I want in the neck or having the pickup so close to the strings that it muds out and I hit it with my pick. Never mind the fact that the current trend of just throwing a Jazz or a 59 in with any high output bridge is getting a bit tired. They asked for a gap in the product line; the lack of neck options is one of them.
That's amazing, but my point still stands. There is a lack of medium output neck options in the catalog. Besides the fact you can get all the tones you want with a 59n or Jazzn or (insert pickup here) by tweaking your amp, there's still a tonality associated with an output of 9.5-11.5k that you can't capture with a high output or low output pickup.
Personally, I find that range to be ideal for my style, which is switching between pickups without having to kick in a drive pedal to get the saturation I want in the neck or having the pickup so close to the strings that it muds out and I hit it with my pick. Never mind the fact that the current trend of just throwing a Jazz or a 59 in with any high output bridge is getting a bit tired. They asked for a gap in the product line; the lack of neck options is one of them.
treyhaislip
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
Those are awesome!....hint hint SD :wave:
Calig has this one with an A5:
and this one with a Neodymium:
(That one is also a standard humbucker configuration, so you could swap in an A5 or A8 if you wanted)
Those are awesome!....hint hint SD :wave:
treyhaislip
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
I agree with you on the "more medium output neck options" but just wanted to say that the Screamin' Demon is an awesome neck pickup
I agree with you on the "more medium output neck options" but just wanted to say that the Screamin' Demon is an awesome neck pickup
blueman335
Mojo's Minions
Re: Gaps in the product line?
For me, 9-10K HB's are great for the bridge slot. So yeah, bring them on. There is a market for them.
For me, 9-10K HB's are great for the bridge slot. So yeah, bring them on. There is a market for them.
Edgecrusher
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
Yep they do... http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/stratocaster/high-output/jb_jr_sjbj1/
Use that for your bridge then buy 2 of whatever single coils float your boat. And if your not into the JB they have a few other flavors of single coil sized humbuckers available.
Yep they do... http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/electric/stratocaster/high-output/jb_jr_sjbj1/
Use that for your bridge then buy 2 of whatever single coils float your boat. And if your not into the JB they have a few other flavors of single coil sized humbuckers available.
dominus
King Midas to Cheap Guitars
Re: Gaps in the product line?
*And* they have neck versions of those that are medium output that also make good bridge pickups. :firedevil
I agree with you on the "more medium output neck options" but just wanted to say that the Screamin' Demon is an awesome neck pickup
*And* they have neck versions of those that are medium output that also make good bridge pickups. :firedevil
Ptolemaeus
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
I know, man. I ended up with a Demon in my PRS after a long and arduous search for a humbucker that captured everything I needed in the neck slot of a 24 fret guitar. Enough output to saturate fluidly without setting the thing against the strings, not hot enough so that it's mud. It's a really great pickup and I think more pickups in that range would be very marketable for SD.
I agree with you on the "more medium output neck options" but just wanted to say that the Screamin' Demon is an awesome neck pickup
I know, man. I ended up with a Demon in my PRS after a long and arduous search for a humbucker that captured everything I needed in the neck slot of a 24 fret guitar. Enough output to saturate fluidly without setting the thing against the strings, not hot enough so that it's mud. It's a really great pickup and I think more pickups in that range would be very marketable for SD.
Ptolemaeus
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Re: Gaps in the product line?
There's the Hot/Cool/Vintage Rails, JB Jr., Lil Screamin Demon, and Lil 59. Those are all single coil sized humbuckers.
There's the Hot/Cool/Vintage Rails, JB Jr., Lil Screamin Demon, and Lil 59. Those are all single coil sized humbuckers.
Re: Gaps in the product line?
a p90 that cooks you breakfast goes to job interviews for you or your job, fly's cleans your house and reproduces with itself to have baby p90s to put in your ukulele oo and a video game where you are a guitar playing super hero that beats villians by hitting them across the head with a les paul and throwing super sharp picks at them and tying them up with wires from a humbucker and he wears leather pants a leather vest and a guitar string bracelet
a p90 that cooks you breakfast goes to job interviews for you or your job, fly's cleans your house and reproduces with itself to have baby p90s to put in your ukulele oo and a video game where you are a guitar playing super hero that beats villians by hitting them across the head with a les paul and throwing super sharp picks at them and tying them up with wires from a humbucker and he wears leather pants a leather vest and a guitar string bracelet