Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
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sosomething
Seymour Duncan Customer Support
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
oh
yeah
i'll take that, thanks
expect a pm with my shipping addy
oh
yeah
i'll take that, thanks
expect a pm with my shipping addy
Rich_S
HomeGrownToneBrewologist
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
I can't stress enough how spot-on Dan Erlewine's chapter on this subject is. Basically it says, "Sometimes, it's easy, you just loosen the screws, scootch it over a bit, and re-tighten them. Other times, it requires more work, and here's what you need to do..." His list of things to do was exactly what I found when I pulled off the neck. Without his book, I would have looked in the pocket and thought "Now what?", but when I popped the neck out I looked in there and thought, "Yep, there it is." and knew what to do just like I'd done it a dozen times.
The only other guitar I ever did this on was a real-deal '73 Tele Custom. Back then, the neck pockets were so sloppy, there was plenty of room to realign it. Heck, with the 3-bolt Micro-Tilt mounting I didn't even have to loosen the screws; just gave it push and "Creak, Ping!" it was back where it needed to be (for the time being).
On the other hand, it's interesting to see the quality of the fundamentals on the modern MIM guitar. CNC routing makes for an accurate, tight neck pocket. The problems arise in the details - get a little sloppy with the Blue Agave around a nice, tight neck pocket, and suddenly it's too tight. This makes MIMs a great deal for someone like me, who's gonna mess around with them, swap parts, etc. Not so good for someone who's going to play it, put no thought or effort into its setup, wonder why it doesn't work very well, and ultimately sell it. His loss, my gain.
Hmm, got off on a tangent there. The main take-away here is this: Erlewine's a freakin' genius. Everybody should own his book. Although, if the guy I bought this guitar from owned it and read it, I probably wouldn't own this guitar.
I can't stress enough how spot-on Dan Erlewine's chapter on this subject is. Basically it says, "Sometimes, it's easy, you just loosen the screws, scootch it over a bit, and re-tighten them. Other times, it requires more work, and here's what you need to do..." His list of things to do was exactly what I found when I pulled off the neck. Without his book, I would have looked in the pocket and thought "Now what?", but when I popped the neck out I looked in there and thought, "Yep, there it is." and knew what to do just like I'd done it a dozen times.
The only other guitar I ever did this on was a real-deal '73 Tele Custom. Back then, the neck pockets were so sloppy, there was plenty of room to realign it. Heck, with the 3-bolt Micro-Tilt mounting I didn't even have to loosen the screws; just gave it push and "Creak, Ping!" it was back where it needed to be (for the time being).
On the other hand, it's interesting to see the quality of the fundamentals on the modern MIM guitar. CNC routing makes for an accurate, tight neck pocket. The problems arise in the details - get a little sloppy with the Blue Agave around a nice, tight neck pocket, and suddenly it's too tight. This makes MIMs a great deal for someone like me, who's gonna mess around with them, swap parts, etc. Not so good for someone who's going to play it, put no thought or effort into its setup, wonder why it doesn't work very well, and ultimately sell it. His loss, my gain.
Hmm, got off on a tangent there. The main take-away here is this: Erlewine's a freakin' genius. Everybody should own his book. Although, if the guy I bought this guitar from owned it and read it, I probably wouldn't own this guitar.
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Rich_S
HomeGrownToneBrewologist
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
Very nicely-made little piece. I think it's a bit sluggish with the heavy Tele knob on it - probably work better with a Strat knob or plastic Gibson knob. However, it'll work fine once I get used to it. I definitely love the stealth aspect - beats drilling another hole for a kill switch.
Rich_S
HomeGrownToneBrewologist
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
Wow. It took me almost a month to finally get around to setting up my rig and trying the new Tele-Esquire through a proper amp and pedalboard. I love the tapped QP - it's Fendery-enough rolled down to the full tap position. About three-quarters, it's fatter, but still really cuts. The full coil is great for singing solo tones, but gets buried for rhythm work.
The Kill Pot is great - I played the solo from "Tattooed Love Boys" to try it out.
I really like what losing the neck pickup does to the guitar's unplugged tone - it's a lot more open & jangly. Only time will tell if I can get by with the single-pickup setup. No big deal; it's easy to add any neck pickup I want since it's routed for an HB. I could see putting either an SSL-1 or a 59N in there someday.
But for now, K.I.S.S - one pickup, two knobs, and I have myself a new #1.
Wow. It took me almost a month to finally get around to setting up my rig and trying the new Tele-Esquire through a proper amp and pedalboard. I love the tapped QP - it's Fendery-enough rolled down to the full tap position. About three-quarters, it's fatter, but still really cuts. The full coil is great for singing solo tones, but gets buried for rhythm work.
The Kill Pot is great - I played the solo from "Tattooed Love Boys" to try it out.
I really like what losing the neck pickup does to the guitar's unplugged tone - it's a lot more open & jangly. Only time will tell if I can get by with the single-pickup setup. No big deal; it's easy to add any neck pickup I want since it's routed for an HB. I could see putting either an SSL-1 or a 59N in there someday.
But for now, K.I.S.S - one pickup, two knobs, and I have myself a new #1.
astrozombie
KatyPerryologist
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
Looks great! What Fender colour is that?
Looks great! What Fender colour is that?
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Funkfingers
Guest
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
Looks like one of the Fender MIM colours. Depending upon how the photograph was lit. Probably either Blue Agave or Sage Green Metallic. (The latter often appears grey.)
Looks like one of the Fender MIM colours. Depending upon how the photograph was lit. Probably either Blue Agave or Sage Green Metallic. (The latter often appears grey.)
Sprinter
New member
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
Tapped? Is the quarter pound Tele pickup tappable? I bought a '74 Telecaster last week and it has a pair of Quarter Pound pickups in it. I hate the pickups. They're way too hot for me. If I could tap them maybe I'd like them better.
I almost forgot to say "Great looking guitar"!!!
Sprinter
Tapped? Is the quarter pound Tele pickup tappable? I bought a '74 Telecaster last week and it has a pair of Quarter Pound pickups in it. I hate the pickups. They're way too hot for me. If I could tap them maybe I'd like them better.
I almost forgot to say "Great looking guitar"!!!
Sprinter
guitfiddle
firstlessonologist
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
Dude, that thing is great.
The only thing I could think of in the least is maybe to put on a three knob control plate, and have a tone knob. :scratchch
Dude, that thing is great.
The only thing I could think of in the least is maybe to put on a three knob control plate, and have a tone knob. :scratchch
Rich_S
HomeGrownToneBrewologist
Re: Gentlemen, I give you... the Dangerous Type
IMO, tapped is the only way to go with the QP, since it can get muddy. It's a Pro Shop model, STL-3T I believe. Sadly, you can tap and existing QP, you need to bring out the tap while the pickup is being wound.
Thanks. I only ever use a tone control to tame real-deal Tele bridge pickups. With the QP, I never have to worry about too many highs, so I wouldn't use a tone control. This guitar is all about simpler-is-better.
Yes, it's Blue Agave. The photo looks greyer than it really is in person.
IMO, tapped is the only way to go with the QP, since it can get muddy. It's a Pro Shop model, STL-3T I believe. Sadly, you can tap and existing QP, you need to bring out the tap while the pickup is being wound.
Thanks. I only ever use a tone control to tame real-deal Tele bridge pickups. With the QP, I never have to worry about too many highs, so I wouldn't use a tone control. This guitar is all about simpler-is-better.
Yes, it's Blue Agave. The photo looks greyer than it really is in person.
