Get new pickups or new epi

Briceh2289

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So I bought a Epiphone LP Vintage Edition but I wanted to upgrade the pickups which would end up being around 100 and I would have invested 250 all total. Should I sell the VE and buy the 100 instead which is 280. Any thoughts?
 
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So I bought a Epiphone LP Vintage Edition but I wanted to upgrade the pickups which would end up being around 100 and I would have invested 250 all total. Should I sell the VE and buy the 100 instead which is 280. Any thoughts?

I believe they use the same generic ceramic pickups which are mediocre, but not bad for ceramic generic pickups.

I would keep playing the VE for now and save up and get the standard. The studio 100 is not much of a step up - it looks more like an LP should but it's still got s bolt on neck and the same mediocre pickups.

I bought my LP standard when deals were good and paid £275 for a brand new gold top standard (rrp in the UK being £349 at the time )

A year later it's pickups which Alnico 5 cksssics but rather bland sounding are now swapped out for dimarzio super distortion in the bridge and dimarzio PAF pro in the neck. Now it's the Les Paul I always wanted.

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Seems like you have outgrown the guitar but I would suggest saving up a bit. You want your next guitar to be a leap forward in tone and playability. Once you get into the $400 - $500 range your options for quality guitars increases dramatically.
 
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Agreed on saving $ for a move into $500 range-

However, while you are waiting, consider cheap ways to beef up what you have - that looks like a good platform to mess around with- buy cheap pups to see what you like, buy broken pups and rewind or start from scratch (link follows)- my initial guitars probably never had the same pickups in them for more than 2 months and if you find what you like in an inexpensive guitar you will be way ahead of the game as you move on up.

https://www.amplifiedparts.com/prod...SLnO2H-4wUDfjezKl-tNp2DScaPY7fkEaAmGIEALw_wcB
 
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That guitar has the Ceramic-based 650R and 700T pickups. Here's what a fellow forum member who did a magnet swap to those same pickups had to say:

So, i took the ceramic magnets out of both of these factory epi pick ups and replaced with alnico 5...long story short, these are actually perfect for angus young tone with a wide open marshall, and if i roll the volume back a little i get a slightly hotter gary rossington tone. For a 120 guitar, i now have pups that sond amazingly good and i would gig with it.

Ultimately, it sounds like you might get something very usable for a small $10 investment in magnets and just a few minutes of your time to do the swap...
 
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The LP Special was my first guitar. I liked it much better when I got a Jazz in it. Get a nice set of pickups. You can always transfer them once you get the LP Standard or something else nice.
 
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Thank y'all! I'll definitely upgrade the pickups and save monthly until I can get the standard.
 
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The LP Special was my first guitar. I liked it much better when I got a Jazz in it. Get a nice set of pickups. You can always transfer them once you get the LP Standard or something else nice.

Does the jazz work with all types of music? And what other pickup would you recommend to use with it
 
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I'm really impressed with the 59. It has nice round bass to it and some guys use it for jazz, but at the same time it seems to have a great rock character or timbre and an articulate top end.
 
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I'm really impressed with the 59. It has nice round bass to it and some guys use it for jazz, but at the same time it seems to have a great rock character or timbre and an articulate top end.

Alright cool thanks. So I'm thinking Jazz for the bridge then 59 for the neck. Then saving up 50-100 a month and getting the standard sometime next year
 
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I would go with the 59 for the neck and Custom 5 for the bridge. The C5 is full sounding with higher output than the jazz but still articulate.
 
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I would go with the 59 for the neck and Custom 5 for the bridge. The C5 is full sounding with higher output than the jazz but still articulate.

Alright. The SH-14 C5? Because I saw there's a SH-5 one as well. On the Seymour Duncan sight it recommended the Jazz and 59 neck.
 
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A year later it's pickups which Alnico 5 cksssics but rather bland sounding are now swapped out for dimarzio super distortion in the bridge and dimarzio PAF pro in the neck. Now it's the Les Paul I always wanted.

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That's a beautiful guitar I was looking yesterday and I plan on getting the Pelham Blue one when I can afford it in 3-6 months
 
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That's a beautiful guitar I was looking yesterday and I plan on getting the Pelham Blue one when I can afford it in 3-6 months

The Pelham blue is nice but I've wanted a gold top since I was about 14!

If you are in the UK PMT had them in silly money offers. Mine was £275 new!


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The Pelham blue is nice but I've wanted a gold top since I was about 14!

If you are in the UK PMT had them in silly money offers. Mine was £275 new!


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Unfortunately I'm not in the UK though I want to visit! lol. But they are a decent price here at 419 USD. So I should be able to get it in 3 months though honestly hoping it can be sooner.
 
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Here's the wiring
Not the tidiest job, but then I find working with more than one push pull is always a bit untidy.

But here it is. Pull up the bridge volume only gives outer coil splits. Pull up the the neck volume only gives inner coil splits.
Pull both the volumes and both humbuckers have their coils in parallel with themselves.

Pull up the neck volume and it reversed polarity on the neck sending the hot to ground via a 1K resistor and the ground to hot in series with a 0.2uF cap - it reversed cancellation of the low bass frequencies.

I find the super D and PAF pro are different enough that the out of phase sounds really nice give a scoped nasal tone and not at all thin using the capacitor and resistor.

What was a guitar I didn't play so much is now possibly joint first place guitar with my favourite. And it's super versatile too.

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I also swapped the pole pieces for black in the super distortion to match the PAF pro

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I think it's my most beautiful looking guitar
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Unfortunately I'm not in the UK though I want to visit! lol. But they are a decent price here at 419 USD. So I should be able to get it in 3 months though honestly hoping it can be sooner.

The super D and PAF pro turn it into the Les Paul it should be. It's an amazing combo.
I don't okay metal I play a mish mash of blues, country, alt country classic rock and alternative rock - even a bit of funk. This guitar can cover it all now!

The cleans are really good too plus they both split nicely and also sound good with coils in parallel if you want hum free single coil tone.

This wiring scheme I used is fantastic- it's now not a one trick pony, it can cover strat and Tele territory too.


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I unfortunately know absolutely nothing about wiring so as much as I'd like to do anything to it I'll leave it up to the professionals here lol.
 
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If I did I would definitely wire it like you did most likely because a friend and I are planning on starting a cover band eventually and we won't play metal more classic rock and alt rock maybe a bit of hard rock but nothing metal.
 
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I have to agree with the mag swap recommendation. That just isn't a long term keeper guitar. Every dollar into it is one more dollar away from a way better one. The mag swap is cheap and easy. No magical wiring skills needed.
 
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