drew_half_empty
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i know the duncans are modeled after the '57s, but, how close are they? any noticable tonal difference?
gibbo '57 vs sd '59
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the guy who invented fire
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Re: gibbo '57 vs sd '59
do you mean classic 57's vs duncan 59? or are you asking about a real 1957 PAF vs a duncan 59
drew_half_empty said:
do you mean classic 57's vs duncan 59? or are you asking about a real 1957 PAF vs a duncan 59
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Re: gibbo '57 vs sd '59
The Gibson '57 Classics are an alnico 2 humbucker inspired by the earliest version of the Seth Lover designed Gibson paf that specified alnico 2 for the magnet. So is the Duncan Seth Lover...though the Seth has a more pleasing tone, IMO and actually sounds more like a genuine vintage '57 Gibson paf than the Gibson '57 Classic.
By 1959 Gibson was using alnico 2, 4 and 5 more or less indiscriminantly.
The Duncan 59 is an alnico 5 humbucker inspired by the Gibson '59 paf and those that were made in the early '60's...like the pickups Clapton used in his '64 SG when he played with Cream, or those Eric Johnson has in his early 60's Gibson ES-335 that he uses to emulate Clapton's Cream tone.
I think the 59 has plenty of mids, but not as much mids as if it were an alnico 2 humbucker like the Seth, Pearly Gates or Antiquity. All four are differant versions of the same '57 through '60 Gibson paf humbuckers...
You might like to read the humbucking pickup shootout these guys did: http://www.legendarytones.com Click on guitars to find the reviews.
There's also a new article on Clapton's Gear choices in the 60's and most of it coincides with the work we did here on the forum a few months ago regarding Clapton's gear with Cream and John Mayall.
The Gibson '57 Classics are an alnico 2 humbucker inspired by the earliest version of the Seth Lover designed Gibson paf that specified alnico 2 for the magnet. So is the Duncan Seth Lover...though the Seth has a more pleasing tone, IMO and actually sounds more like a genuine vintage '57 Gibson paf than the Gibson '57 Classic.
By 1959 Gibson was using alnico 2, 4 and 5 more or less indiscriminantly.
The Duncan 59 is an alnico 5 humbucker inspired by the Gibson '59 paf and those that were made in the early '60's...like the pickups Clapton used in his '64 SG when he played with Cream, or those Eric Johnson has in his early 60's Gibson ES-335 that he uses to emulate Clapton's Cream tone.
I think the 59 has plenty of mids, but not as much mids as if it were an alnico 2 humbucker like the Seth, Pearly Gates or Antiquity. All four are differant versions of the same '57 through '60 Gibson paf humbuckers...
You might like to read the humbucking pickup shootout these guys did: http://www.legendarytones.com Click on guitars to find the reviews.
There's also a new article on Clapton's Gear choices in the 60's and most of it coincides with the work we did here on the forum a few months ago regarding Clapton's gear with Cream and John Mayall.
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drew_half_empty
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Re: gibbo '57 vs sd '59
i meant the '57 classics, like the kind that come on the gibson cs-336's
ok, so, more midrange, what about output?
i meant the '57 classics, like the kind that come on the gibson cs-336's
ok, so, more midrange, what about output?
Simon_F
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Re: gibbo '57 vs sd '59
I don't know what the specs are of the '57 Classics and I haven't measured mine, but to my ears they have slightly more output than '59s.
Here's the direct link to that shootout Lew mentioned. I've played Seths, '59s and '57 Classics and I think these guys have got the comparison about right:
http://www.legendarytones.com/humbpus1.htm
I don't know what the specs are of the '57 Classics and I haven't measured mine, but to my ears they have slightly more output than '59s.
Here's the direct link to that shootout Lew mentioned. I've played Seths, '59s and '57 Classics and I think these guys have got the comparison about right:
http://www.legendarytones.com/humbpus1.htm
drew_half_empty
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Re: gibbo '57 vs sd '59
hm, they sound like great pickups
i just hope theres no gibson logo on them, i don't want their tags on my crap, haha
hm, they sound like great pickups
i just hope theres no gibson logo on them, i don't want their tags on my crap, haha
the guy who invented fire
Fuzzy. Guitars
Re: gibbo '57 vs sd '59
There is nothing really wrong with the classic 57's I just prefer Duncans...there are no logo's on them...sans a PAF sticker on the back, if you remove the cover they are all black (as far as I know) and have tons and tons of wax on them ( I really hate that), all in all if you can pick them at a fair price I say go with them!
drew_half_empty said:
There is nothing really wrong with the classic 57's I just prefer Duncans...there are no logo's on them...sans a PAF sticker on the back, if you remove the cover they are all black (as far as I know) and have tons and tons of wax on them ( I really hate that), all in all if you can pick them at a fair price I say go with them!
