Gibson High Performance Transient Suppresion?

[Mincer]

Re: Gibson High Performance Transient Suppresion?

I'd be interested to know if anyone has a guitar with this circuit...and if they do, what they think of it. I don't quite understand what the point is, but I've never tried it. In the early 80s, Gibson put an expander and compressor in their 'Artist' series. This was an active circuit, though, and you really could hear and feel the difference. I wonder how this is done passively here.

 

[some_dude]

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I'd be interested to know if anyone has a guitar with this circuit...and if they do, what they think of it. I don't quite understand what the point is, but I've never tried it. In the early 80s, Gibson put an expander and compressor in their 'Artist' series. This was an active circuit, though, and you really could hear and feel the difference. I wonder how this is done passively here.

Considering that it's passive... I've been wondering if it's something simple, like a straight up 3db volume cut.

 

[Mincer]

Re: Gibson High Performance Transient Suppresion?

Considering that it's passive... I've been wondering if it's something simple, like a straight up 3db volume cut.

That would be something, wouldn't it?

 

[some_dude]

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That would be something, wouldn't it?

Remember the Monster Jazz cable? They were charging extra for a cable that sucked more highs.

 

[Mincer]

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Yeah they charged a lot for that cable, too. PRS designed their 'sweet switch' to mimic a 100' cable run.

 

[Chistopher]

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Considering that it's passive... I've been wondering if it's something simple, like a straight up 3db volume cut.

I don't think so, because on the demo I saw of one of an HP II SG he did a A/B comparison of it on and off and I couldn't tell any difference. It may just as well be a switch that switches to a different color wire for all I can tell.

 

[beaubrummels]

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So passive you can't hear it.

 

[tball724]

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This response is late, but here is Craig Anderton's explanation of Gibson's transient suppression.

And here is his article on how to build one into a patch cable for around $2 in parts. I'm on my way to the electronics store this week.

 

[devastone]

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I just read Anderton's column in the latest GP and thinking it sounded like the same thing. Since I am using modelers, I may give this a try. Pretty easy to build into a cable, or a guitar cavity, and according to the article, it can make a pretty big difference, especially for modelers or DI'ing into an interface, pretty much anywhere the signal is going straight to A/D converters.

Also, it probably doesn't make a noticeable difference running into analog pedals/amps, especially with gain, the natural compression of the analog circuit would round off the transients for you.

 

[PFDarkside]

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This response is late, but here is Craig Anderton's explanation of Gibson's transient suppression.

And here is his article on how to build one into a patch cable for around $2 in parts. I'm on my way to the electronics store this week.

Thanks for posting this.

 

[Dave Locher]

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I am also going to try this! At first it sounds like the opposite of what I want but I like to tinker and this is cheap, quick, easy and I am just plain curious.

 

[Dave Locher]

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LED electronics experts: I don not have any red LED bulbs laying around but I do have some large white ones. The article claims red work best.
1) Really?
2) Would white limit more, or less, than red??

 

[devastone]

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Get some red, white has a higher turn on voltage and the junction will behave a little different. He actually mentions it in the article. Also, if you aren't using a modeler, or some other D/A conversion, you probably won't notice much if anything.

so, to answer your questions:

1) Yes, really
2) It would limit less, i.e. higher transients

 

[ibanezrocks]

Re: Gibson High Performance Transient Suppresion?

This response is late, but here is Craig Anderton's explanation of Gibson's transient suppression.

And here is his article on how to build one into a patch cable for around $2 in parts. I'm on my way to the electronics store this week.

The waveforms are pretty convincing. Has anyone actually tried this with an amp modeler though? I'm curious to hear if it'd be noticeable with my Helix.

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[devastone]

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Not yet, maybe I can get to it this weekend.

 

[Rich_S]

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Actually, I recently read an article by Craig Anderton on how to DIY this circuit. IIRC, it’s simply a diode clipping circuit using LEDs, but it’s set up to suppress the occasional volume spike, rather than full-time clipping (like in a distortion pedal). Craig’s column is in Guitar Player and it topic is recording and digital guitar. I’m quite sure he said he uses this gizmo (in a separate box, not built into the guitar) to suppress transients that would otherwise cause harsh digital clipping in digital guitar rigs, exactly as Gibson describes their circuit.

Look through the last 3 or 4 months of GP and you’ll find the column. Might have been the Richard Thompson issue, but I’m not sure.

 

[ehdwuld]

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I may mod that into my Piezo equipped guitars

they are real spiky

 

[devastone]

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Actually, I recently read an article by Craig Anderton on how to DIY this circuit. IIRC, it’s simply a diode clipping circuit using LEDs, but it’s set up to suppress the occasional volume spike, rather than full-time clipping (like in a distortion pedal). Craig’s column is in Guitar Player and it topic is recording and digital guitar. I’m quite sure he said he uses this gizmo (in a separate box, not built into the guitar) to suppress transients that would otherwise cause harsh digital clipping in digital guitar rigs, exactly as Gibson describes their circuit.

Look through the last 3 or 4 months of GP and you’ll find the column. Might have been the Richard Thompson issue, but I’m not sure.

Sorry to be "that guy", but see post #28.

 

[dpaterson]

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Now this is very interesting and I’m pleased this thread was brought back to life otherwise I would have missed this.

Do these red LEDS have to be a certain voltage or something i.e. what would be the parts list I guess is the question. Because this I want to try.

 

[ehdwuld]

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Now this is very interesting and I’m pleased this thread was brought back to life otherwise I would have missed this.

Do these red LEDS have to be a certain voltage or something i.e. what would be the parts list I guess is the question. Because this I want to try.

Um the article just said two red LEDS opposed to one another
Between the Hot and Ground legs

Has pictures
Has schematics

Has words

Doesn't have Bill of Material for the two red LEDs